[Tagging] Was public_transport=platform intended to always be combined with highway=bus_stop?

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Sat Aug 3 01:09:29 UTC 2019

On 03/08/19 11:03, Daniel Koć wrote:
> W dniu 03.08.2019 o 02:28, Joseph Eisenberg pisze:
>> Consider also how you would route someone from a amenity=cafe node in
>> a building to a shop=* area in another building across the city, by
>> car. You have to jump from the node to the nearest highway, follow the
>> highways to the other side of the city, and then jump back to the
>> other node. So any router than can handle automobile directions can
>> also manage bus stops or tram stops or platforms at the side of the
>> road, without needing anything other than highway or railway ways and
>> platform or bus stop nodes.
> I guess this is the example where this simple analogy fails:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/334559271
> The route for personal journey might be undefined on the ends (drivers
> just use their eyes there), public transport routing is more strict.
>> I wasn't able to understand enough of the link about updating transit
>> features in Warsaw to see how the stop_position nodes were useful. I
>> understand that some transit agencies provide data about stop
>> positions, and that's the original reason that the stop_position nodes
>> were created. There's no problem with keeping them in your city if you
>> like them, but probably we shouldn't tell new mappers that they are
>> needed, for example in developing cities around the world that
>> currently lack any bus stops.
> Sorry for asking, but you probably know this documentation quite good -
> do we really tell people that every element of a public transport stop
> is needed just because it's documented somewhere?
>> The complexity of the current system, as described on the main pages
>> in the wiki, can discourage mapping anything (for example, I've been
>> discouraged from trying to add any of the minibus routes in my part of
>> Indonesia, since it seemed so complicated to make so many features and
>> routes).
> So maybe documentation should be just cleaned? And if I understand you
> wrong, could you describe what was your problem there?

I would like to know the simplest, easiest and minimalist way of mapping.
I am not dealing with a complex situation, just the simplest possible.

Consider someone who have little to no mapping experience.
Do the main pages help them or confuse them?

-------------------- tl:dr
I think there needs to be a main page that is for beginners.
When they get to something complex they might be able to use the more 
complex main pages.

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