[Tagging] Bicycle kitchens, community centres that offer bicycle repairs etc

Leif Rasmussen 354lbr at gmail.com
Wed Aug 7 20:25:14 UTC 2019


Cafés^, not cages.  Android swiping strikes again.

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 10:19 PM Leif Rasmussen <354lbr at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've seen cages that are also bike shops, so whatever tagging solution we
> up with should work with any type of shop.
> Leif Rasmussen
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 9:38 PM Morten Lange via Tagging <
> tagging at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wonder how I should tag bicycle shops that are not shops in the
>> traditional "buy our products" sense.
>>
>> A community-centre that is also offers bicycle repairs / is a bicycle
>> repair shop.
>> Or a bicycle "shop"  that primarily focuses on refurbishing disused bikes.
>> Or a community-centre or similar that provides job training for various
>> groups, and such training happens through running a bicycle repair service
>> for the public.
>>
>>
>> I have found a few such bicycle repair and maintenance "shops" on OSM.
>> These are the searches I have used in overpass-turbo.eu:
>>
>> (shop=bicycle or service:bicycle:repair=yes)  and
>> ownership=private_nonprofit
>> or
>> community_centre=bicycle_maintenance
>> or
>> service:bicycle:repair=yes  and amenity=community_centre
>>
>>
>> Many of those that I described, to my eperience do not offer
>> Do-it-yourself (more on DIY  below).
>> They still are something else than your "ordinary"  bikeshop, and I think
>> that is significant to reflect in tagging.
>> So I wonder how best to tag those.  My experience is that most of them
>> are non-profit.
>>
>>
>> My preliminary conclusion is to use this on the nodes I have mapped in
>> Oslo and elsewhere in Norway:
>>       shop=bicycle
>>       service:bicycle:repair=yes
>>       ownership=private_nonprofit      (or ownership=public_nonprofit)
>>
>>
>>
>> Some additinional thoughts :
>>
>> A.
>> If the place is a Do-it-yourself shop it should be tagged as such.
>> Searching for this tag and value I see the pair has been used quite a lot.
>> For example for bicycle kitchens.
>>      service:bicycle:dyi=yes.
>>
>> B.
>> Tagging primarily as a community centre?
>>
>> Some might suggest to use amenity=community_centre combined with
>>       community_centre=bicycle_maintenance
>>
>> But then the community centre feature will overshadow the bikeshop
>> aspect. (And in current renderings the place would not pop up as a place
>> where you can fix your bicycle/tricycle)
>> I would like to have it the other way around, that is to emphasise the
>> service offered to the public, rather than type of establishment.
>>
>> Is it OK to use
>>        community_centre=bicycle_maintenance
>> together with
>>       shop=bicycle ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Any other comments?
>> Could a single "freshly invented" value do the trick like
>>       service:bicycle:repair=work_training
>> The downside is that if searching for the value =yes, those
>> nodes/ways/relations are not found.
>>
>>
>> Regards / Kveðja / Hilsen
>> Morten Lange
>>
>>
>> P.S
>>
>> Bicycle kitchens and bicycle librarier are somewhat different animals.
>>
>> Searching the web for bicycle kitchen, bicycle library etc turns up quite
>> a few references.
>>
>> But I could not find them on OSM.
>> That is until I specifically searched in overpass-turbo for
>>
>>     shop=bicycle and service:bicycle:diy=yes
>>
>> Rome, Paris and Berlin are virtually peppered.
>>
>>
>> And for the case of the bicycle library .....
>> Would this be a possibe way to tag them
>>       service:bicycle:rental=library
>> ?
>>
>> --
>> Morten Lange, Oslo
>>
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