[Tagging] Merging tagging scheme on wiki pages of Hiking, route=hiking, route=foot and Walking routes

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Thu Aug 15 10:22:17 UTC 2019


Got an example?

I also note that the example I gave has a 'spur' and that might be a good role name for my 'access tack' things.


On 15/08/19 19:56, Peter Elderson wrote:
> I strongly prefer to have one relation for the main route, and separate relations for alternatives. Put those together in a relation with roles for the member relations, not for individual ways. So the lowest level always contains only ways, the higher level contains only relations.
>
> The ways in the main relation should form one continuous sorted (sortable) route, which data users can extract or link to for navigation or planner software.
>
> Note that rendering routes is not that critical, but data use is increasingly important.
>
> Fr gr Peter Elderson
>
>> Op 15 aug. 2019 om 09:35 heeft Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>
>>> On 15/08/19 17:00, Peter Elderson wrote:
>>> Where/to what exactly do you apply the role?
>> In the relation.
>>
>> See https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1388126
>>
>> Here the 'normal' members are simple ways with no role, these form the route itself.
>>
>> Those that have a relationship role of 'alternate' in this instance are relations themselves but the could be more simple ways.
>> These form alternate routes to the main route.
>> They could be for any number of reasons - hight tides or flooded rivers.
>> In this case the Hornsby original goes through a firing range, Little Wobbly is a cheaper alternative to a private water taxi,
>> the other I am not certain of, possibly an 'access tack' from a train station - I would have to look.
>>
>> Note I am not the author here of 'alternate', but I have done some work on the OSM route.
>>
>>> Mvg Peter Elderson
>>>
>>>> Op 15 aug. 2019 om 01:20 heeft Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>
>>>> It would be usefull to document the method of  including alternate, side trips and access tracks to these routes.
>>>>
>>>> At the moment I and others are using the role 'alternate' for track alternative paths.
>>>>
>>>> For 'side trips' (short paths to features of interest) possibly the role 'side_trip'?
>>>>
>>>> For 'access tracks' (paths from common and signed places that leas to teh main track) possibly the role 'access_track'?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 13/08/19 18:50, s8evq wrote:
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> On the discussion page of the wiki entry Hiking (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Hiking#Synchronize_wiki_page_Hiking.2C_Walking_Routes.2C_route.3Dhiking_and_route.3Dfoot_on_tagging_scheme.) I have started a topic, but with little response so far. That's why I come here, before proceeding.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently, there are four tagging scheme tables describing how walking (or hiking) routes should be tagged.
>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hiking
>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Walking_Routes
>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dhiking
>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dfoot
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it not be easier and more clear if we just keep one, and add a link to it in the others?
>>>>>
>>>>> Last month, I already started harmonizing these four tagging scheme tables. I changed the order, added some missing tags, adjusted the explanation etc... In my view, I only had to do minor edits. For those interested, here are my edits:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Hiking&type=revision&diff=1878387&oldid=1873054
>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Walking_Routes&type=revision&diff=1881156&oldid=1879580
>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Aroute%3Dhiking&type=revision&diff=1878383&oldid=1853636
>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Aroute%3Dfoot&type=revision&diff=1878384&oldid=1853797
>>>>>
>>>>> So these four tagging scheme tables are now almost 100% the same.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My idea was to keep the tagging scheme table on one of the wiki pages, and put a link to it on the three other pages. I would like to have broader support before going further.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, we can discuss about the content of the tagging scheme. But that's irrelevant to my question about the organization of the wiki page.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> _______________________________________________
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