[Tagging] Merging tagging scheme on wiki pages of Hiking, route=hiking, route=foot and Walking routes

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Thu Aug 15 11:37:56 UTC 2019


The key "educational" has only been used 25 times, mainly
"educational=yes", and does not have a wiki page, so it would be best
to remove it from the route pages.

"state" is also undocumented, except for "state=alternate".

- Joseph

On 8/15/19, s8evq <s8evq at runbox.com> wrote:
> OK, I'm not against transclusion. I think it makes sense. When the table is
> ready and nobody has further comments, I can have a look at how to do it
> practically.
>
> To split it up even further so the table is useful for other route=... I'm a
> bit hesitant. I'm not sure if there's enough material that gets reused to
> warrant this extra technical complexity. I would prefer to focus first on
> harmonizing the walking/hiking pages. But afterwards, why not have a look
> into further abstraction and transclusion.
>
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 13:11:36 +0200, Hufkratzer <hufkratzer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would also prefer the transclusion (template) instead of just links.
>>
>> It may be possible to split it up in and a part with more general tags
>> (e.g. name, ref, operator, distance, ...) that are also used with other
>> kinds of routes (e.g. for
>> route=running;bicycle;mtb;horse;piste;inline_skates), so that this can
>> be used there too, and in a part with hiking/walking specific tags (e.g.
>> network, educational).
>>
>> On 13.08.2019 12:31, Paul Allen:
>> > On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 09:52, s8evq <s8evq at runbox.com
>> > <mailto:s8evq at runbox.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Would it not be easier and more clear if we just keep one, and add
>> >     a link to it in the others?
>> >
>> >
>> > A principle used in programming is "DRY."  Don't repeat yourself.
>> > Maintaining the same
>> > code in two or more places will cause problems down the line when one
>> > version gets
>> > changed and the other does not.
>> >
>> > Documentation is a little different, because you often wish the same
>> > information to appear
>> > in several places.  This is the case where the documentation is
>> > extensive but people
>> > assume that everything they need to know about a topic will appear in
>> > one place.   OTOH,
>> > the desirability of not repeating yourself increases a lot when you
>> > have many translations
>> > of the material.
>> >
>> > One way of handling this is a link.  Another way of doing it offered
>> > by the wiki is transclusion.
>> > See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Transclusion and
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Transclusion/How_Transclusion_Works
>> > (the first of those two links transcludes the second of those links,
>> > just so you can see how
>> > it looks).
>> >
>> > There are arguments against each way.  If you link to a full page then
>> > the poor user
>> > encountering the link has to wade through that full page to find the
>> > table.  If you transclude
>> > then those wishing to edit the page, or even the transcluded material,
>> > may find it
>> > difficult to figure out how to do it.  You could, of course, put the
>> > table in its own page and
>> > link to that, which avoids the editing problem and the information
>> > overload problem, but
>> > still means more clicks and page loads are required than reading a
>> > page with a
>> > transclusion.
>> >
>> > Up to you which one you go with.  Note that at some point in the
>> > future, somebody may
>> > decide that whichever way you chose to do it was wrong and edit it to
>> > do it differently. :)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Paul
>> >
>> >
>> >
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