[Tagging] Route sorting

Johnparis okosm at johnfreed.com
Fri Aug 16 18:10:21 UTC 2019


Thanks Paul ...

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:13 PM Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 at 11:56, Johnparis <okosm at johnfreed.com> wrote:
>
>> Hoping this is on topic or close ...
>>
>
> Drifting away.  But you can fix that by saying you will vote against
> certain proposals for
> route tagging because iD doesn't handle route relations properly. :)
>
>>
>> 1) People have mentioned that iD can now edit relations. How? I've
>> searched for tutorials or documentation,
>>
>
> Basic stuff is in iD's help. Click on the question mark at the bottom of
> the set of buttons on the
> right.  Look at the sections list at the right of the pop-up help pane and
> click on Relations.
>
>

Tried that. Nothing at all about editing relations per se, just adding or
deleting elements.

and simply tried to drag elements up or down when opening the relation in
>> iD's edit mode ... nothing.
>>
>
> Works for me.  Clicked on a road I knew was part of a bus route.
> Scrollled down in the
> "Edit feature" pane on the left to get to "All relations."  Clicked on the
> appropriate relation
> to open it up.  Scrolled down to the list of elements in the route.
> Clicked on the title of
> one of those elements (it was "Tertiary Road  Priory Street") and dragged
> it down (or up,
> as the case may be).
>

Aha! I needed to download all the elements (some had said "not downloaded",
so I clicked on the download icon). Then it works. Excellent.


> (I'm also glad to hear that it no longer ignores the order of relation
>> members, sometimes breaking the relation's sorting, which is what got me
>> started with JOSM in the first place.)
>>
>
> Ditto.  But I prefer iD for routes now it doesn't break them.  A touch
> swings and roundabouts,
> but if the route sorting isn't badly broken, I use iD.  The only reason I
> haven't deleted
> JOSM is that there's a plugin that lets me split forests/woods so I can
> give each chunk a
> different name.  Many of the larger woods around here have been mapped by
> others long ago
> but not named.  With the UK's OS OpenData StreetView now available as
> background imagery
> I can give names to woods and chunks of woods.
>
> 2) Pet peeve for JOSM. People have mentioned that it sorts correctly (most
>> of the time anyhow) for junction=roundabout. But it fails with
>> junction=circular, which is the exact equivalent of junction=roundabout but
>> without the restriction that traffic in the circle has the right of way.
>> Seems it would be simple to fix?
>>
>
> Raise a ticket with JOSM: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/newticket
> Actually, it would be a good
> idea to check existing tickets first, in case somebody has already raised
> the issue:
> https://josm.openstreetmap.de/report
>

Will do.

Thanks again.


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