[Tagging] Route sorting

Johnparis okosm at johnfreed.com
Fri Aug 16 18:10:21 UTC 2019

Thanks Paul ...

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:13 PM Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 at 11:56, Johnparis <okosm at johnfreed.com> wrote:
>> Hoping this is on topic or close ...
> Drifting away.  But you can fix that by saying you will vote against
> certain proposals for
> route tagging because iD doesn't handle route relations properly. :)
>> 1) People have mentioned that iD can now edit relations. How? I've
>> searched for tutorials or documentation,
> Basic stuff is in iD's help. Click on the question mark at the bottom of
> the set of buttons on the
> right.  Look at the sections list at the right of the pop-up help pane and
> click on Relations.

Tried that. Nothing at all about editing relations per se, just adding or
deleting elements.

and simply tried to drag elements up or down when opening the relation in
>> iD's edit mode ... nothing.
> Works for me.  Clicked on a road I knew was part of a bus route.
> Scrollled down in the
> "Edit feature" pane on the left to get to "All relations."  Clicked on the
> appropriate relation
> to open it up.  Scrolled down to the list of elements in the route.
> Clicked on the title of
> one of those elements (it was "Tertiary Road  Priory Street") and dragged
> it down (or up,
> as the case may be).

Aha! I needed to download all the elements (some had said "not downloaded",
so I clicked on the download icon). Then it works. Excellent.

> (I'm also glad to hear that it no longer ignores the order of relation
>> members, sometimes breaking the relation's sorting, which is what got me
>> started with JOSM in the first place.)
> Ditto.  But I prefer iD for routes now it doesn't break them.  A touch
> swings and roundabouts,
> but if the route sorting isn't badly broken, I use iD.  The only reason I
> haven't deleted
> JOSM is that there's a plugin that lets me split forests/woods so I can
> give each chunk a
> different name.  Many of the larger woods around here have been mapped by
> others long ago
> but not named.  With the UK's OS OpenData StreetView now available as
> background imagery
> I can give names to woods and chunks of woods.
> 2) Pet peeve for JOSM. People have mentioned that it sorts correctly (most
>> of the time anyhow) for junction=roundabout. But it fails with
>> junction=circular, which is the exact equivalent of junction=roundabout but
>> without the restriction that traffic in the circle has the right of way.
>> Seems it would be simple to fix?
> Raise a ticket with JOSM: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/newticket
> Actually, it would be a good
> idea to check existing tickets first, in case somebody has already raised
> the issue:
> https://josm.openstreetmap.de/report

Will do.

Thanks again.

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