[Tagging] landcover dune or land form dune

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Mon Aug 26 13:18:45 UTC 2019

Yes, I agree that for something like landcover=hedge an even stronger
warning is needed.

Some context for why Warin and I are talking about this: The second
section of the key page  Key:produce has long mentioned the
differences between produce=* and product=*.

I added to that section, mentioning that crop=* is used more
frequently than produce=* to specify the annual crops grown on
farmland, and trees=*, used more frequently than produce=* to specify
the trees found in an orchard. I probably should have mentioned that
aquaculture=* is the more common tag to specify the type of organisim
in a landuse=aquaculture feature (e.g. shrimp).

But this addition was first reverted, and after I restored it, now it
has been moved it to a "See Also" section. I disagree with this. if we
are going to mention the difference between produce=* and product=*,
there should be a mention of the other tags, otherwise it appears that
product=* is the only similar or overlapping or synonymous tag that
needs to be considered before picking produce=*.

There was also a statement added that "crop=* can not be used for all
produce=*, but produce=* can be used for all crop=*" which is not
accurate, based on usage of the tags in the database.

I would prefer that a proposal be made to deprecate a key (eg to
replace crop=*, trees=* and aquaculture=* with produce=*), if this is
the intention, rather than removing or de-emphasizing factual
information that does not fit a certain narrative.


On 8/26/19, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 13:18, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> I agree, Paul.
>> The most important things on a wiki page are 1) The description of the
>> tag: what sort of feature or property does it represent and 2) How
>> does one distinguish it from overlapping tags? Both of these should be
>> in the first paragraph / section.
>> For example, see highway=raceway:
>> (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=raceway)
>> "A racetrack for motorised racing, eg cars, motorbikes and karts.
>> For cycling, running, horses, greyhounds etc, use leisure=track."
>> highway=unclassified
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dunclassified
>> "The tag highway=unclassified is used for minor public roads typically
>> at the lowest level of the interconnecting grid network. Unclassified
>> roads have lower importance in the road network than {{tag|tertiary}}
>> roads, and are not residential streets or agricultural tracks...."
> For those examples, that is OK.  But those are along the lines of "this
> tag applies to this particular situation, there are similar situations
> where
> a different tag should be used."  In the case of landcover=hedge it's
> more of "This is a bad tag.  Use this instead." (I paraphrase, you'd
> phrase it more diplomatically) and should be in its own section right
> at the very start.  With a warning icon.  Because once you know that,
> there is no point reading the rest of it.
> --
> Paul

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