[Tagging] Merging tagging scheme on wiki pages of Hiking, route=hiking, route=foot and Walking routes

s8evq s8evq at runbox.com
Wed Aug 28 18:18:29 UTC 2019

No further comments have been made to the current version (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Tagging_scheme_for_hiking_and_foot_route_relations) of the merged tagging schemes. If it's okay for everyone I would start transcluding it on the four pages (Hiking, route=hiking, route=foot and Walking routes)

On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 11:48:23 +0100, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 08:50, s8evq <s8evq at runbox.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 14:34:20 +0100, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > A map with copyright permitting OSM to make use of its data.  There are
> > > several walks near  me which appear on maps published by the county
> > council or tourist board.
> > > Copyright does  not permit me to make use of those maps.
> >
> > If it's government maps with permission, you could argue the case.
> Nope.  Not for these.  Because the base map is explicitly copyright
> Ordnance Survey.  The route
> marking isn't itself copyright OS (I don't think) but copyright the county
> council (not explicitly,
> but the UK is a signatory to the Berne Convention).  But even with explicit
> permission from the
> council to use the route info on the map, I'd not use it because of the
> underlying OS map
> unless the OS also gave the OK.
> > But I'm especially afraid a lot of "not so official" routes would be
> > entered that way. I once found a kayak club had entered it's weekend trip
> > in OSM.
> >
> According to the wiki, local routes are permitted.  All levels of walking
> route from trans-national
> to local.
> Another argument against mapping based on other maps with permission is
> > that it's a lot harder to verify. If we only map based on the presence of
> > physical markers on the ground, other mappers who pass by might be able to
> > spot mistakes or omission. On the other hand, when something is mapped
> > based of an online PDF, I'm afraid it will not get double checked so
> > quickly anymore.
> >
> The walks I mentioned use public footpaths, which are explicitly marked as
> such.  Signs or
> waymarks where they connect to a highway, waymarks as necessary along the
> way.  Other
> countries may do it differently, but here public footpaths are marked and
> even local walking
> clubs don't use routes which are not public footpaths unless the landowner
> has given
> explicit permission (in which case they will eventually become official
> public footpaths by
> dint of usage and marked as such).
> -- 
> Paul
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