[Tagging] craft VS man_made

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Mon Dec 2 10:27:23 UTC 2019


On 02/12/19 20:47, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> I would add that in the case of a "prosciuttificio" (small factory 
> that produces raw cured ham) in many cases these processing plants buy 
> the meat and run only the curing process, which takes more than a 
> year. They may also have a shop or only resell.
> So we are talking about a small very specialised meat-processing facility.
> The official EU translation site https://iate.europa.eu/ translates 
> "prosciuttificio" (and "salumificio", which produces salami) with "ham 
> factory".
> If the EU gives that as official translation, then this should be good 
> enough for OSM.
>
> I would certainly not use "man_made", but "craft", a least for the 
> smaller ones. Hence I would suggest to start tagging them as 
> "craft=ham_factory"
> even though this is a new tag.

Umm the word factory in there is not great, I'd not associate craft with 
factory.

How about craft=ham_processor?
And that could be sub tagged with ham_process=prosciutto?

>
> ... and you should be grateful that the language of the OSM DB is not 
> French, because in that case it would be "craft=
> établissement_de_production_de_jambons"
> :-)
>
> Maybe a more generic approach could be
> craft=meat_curing
> product=ham

I'd be more specific with product=prosciutto.

But I do prefer 'craft=meat_curing' compared to 
'craft=ham_factory/processor' as:

it can be applied to more things like jerky.

it is more specific than ham_processor/factory (this could be cooking, 
salting, slicing and packing)

>
> Volker
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 09:44, Cascafico Giovanni <cascafico at gmail.com 
> <mailto:cascafico at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hello ML!
>
>
>     in Italy there are several small processing companies catalogued as
>     artisans, mostly in categories like food processing (meat, biscuits,
>     milk, etc), which don't run a shop (or shop is a minor business).
>     Reading the wikis, I understand that, depending on business volumes, I
>     should go for craft.
>
>     For instance, I have a dataset with several companies processing of
>     pork meat, which final product is "prosciutto crudo" ("raw" maturated
>     ham) and/or salami.
>
>     AFAIK in case of an industrial scale business tagging could be
>        man_made=works
>        product=meat
>
>     but if craft should be considered, can be
>        craft=meat
>        an accepted kv combination?
>

I'd think 'meat' is more of a 'produce' than a 'product'?
>
>
>     Is craft just whoever runs the business or the final processed
>     product? Or both?
>
>     Other tagging alternatives?
>
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