[Tagging] Business names in capital letters

bkil bkil.hu+Aq at gmail.com
Sun Dec 29 21:23:24 UTC 2019


I find it amusing that some of the other big map providers have chosen a
different "canonical" capitalization of the same trademarks. So they either
are not canonical after all, or we misunderstood the meaning of the name=*
key all along. I think when deciding such issues, we would need to share an
established path of reasoning and/or reliable references.

We had the same argument over a local mailing list and another idea came
up: some of the signage you see and many of their own website use the given
capitalization for stylistic purposes. But the question remains: why isn't
a map using stylistic capitalization? Or as some others do, why isn't
OpenStreetMap using it?

The signs, official company registry documents, websites, receipt, press
releases, newspapers and Wikipedia sometimes contradict (Wikipedia
notoriously even within itself, so don't use that as a reference), while at
other times the mostly match. What do you think about these?

ALDI:
Albrecht-Diskont
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldi#History

Lidl:
Ludwig Lidl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidl#History

SPAR, SPAR express, DESPAR, etc.:
Door Eendrachtig Samenwerken Profiteren Allen Regelmatig
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spar_(retailer)#Etymology

Obi:
"the name goes back to the French pronunciation of the word hobby"
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi_(Baumarkt)#Geschichte

TESCO:
"the initials of the supplier's name (TES), and the first two letters of
his surname (CO)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesco#Origins


On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 9:36 AM Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> sent from a phone
>
> > On 15. Dec 2019, at 19:26, Markus <selfishseahorse at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > If we enter names exactly as they appear on signs, we would have to
> > change all place names to all caps in Italy, France and likely in
> > other countries too.
>
>
>
> as a general rule, all names exactly as they appear on signs does not
> work. Name is the common name as decided by the mapper and according to the
> conventions we have set up (e.g. generally no abbreviations, unless the
> name itself is an abbreviation, like AT&T etc.)
> It can still make sense to have a dedicated tag for the name as it is sign
> posted (e.g. there are occasionally typos on signs, and for people that
> don’t know the situation it could be useful to have this information for
> orienteering on the ground), just like we have official_name for cases
> where the common name is different (and a variety of tags for alternative
> names).
> Apparently, name:signed is the most common tag (if I didn’t miss
> something) with currently 551 uses.
>
> For example there can be different name versions on different signs for
> the same feature (e.g. abbreviated and not street names), and even errors
> /typos on signs can occur.
>
> Cheers Martin
>
>
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