[Tagging] StreetComplete 10 / foot=yes on residential

[Tobias Zwick]

Wrong thread?

Anyway, the quest in StreetComplete only asks for foot=yes/no if the
road is tagged with sidewalk=no.

On 14/02/2019 15:44, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> ... and just to make this even trickier:
> The access tag is (in most cases) about legal access, and not about
> is-it-a-good-idea-to-route-a-pedestrian-along-this-road access.
> That has to be underlined. In my part of the world most roads, even with
> a lot of traffic and without sidewalk are legally open to pedestrians,
> but if they take the road their chance of survival is low.
> Add to the mix that, in my part of the world, almost all roads have no
> sidewalk tag nor separate parallel footways, even if these are present.
> I don't think it's a good idea to add foot=yes to underline what is
> already the default. It would make more sense to tag foot=use_sidepath
> for those cases where there is a sidewalk _and_ pedestrians a legally
> required to use it, and use, obviously, foot=no for those cases where
> there it is against the law to walk on the street (for roads where the
> default is foot=yes)
> 
> 
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 14:49, Tobias Zwick <osm at westnordost.de
> <mailto:osm at westnordost.de>> wrote:
> 
>     I don't take dismissive and generalizing statements on a project I have
>     been putting 3+ years of lifeblood into, invest much of my free time in
>     and offer as open source for the betterment of OSM, lightly.
> 
>     If you have a concrete constructive suggestion to make, do it,
>     otherwise, save your breath.
> 
>     Tobias
> 
>     On 14/02/2019 11:45, Wiklund Johan wrote:
>     > I think that apps adding redundant tags to cover for a tiny number
>     of special cases is going to cause more problems than it solves
>     (i.e. users misinterpreting the question and adding "private" access
>     to all kinds of roads). StreetBloat instead of StreetComplete :)
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdreist at gmail.com
>     <mailto:dieterdreist at gmail.com>]
>     > Sent: torsdag 14. februar 2019 10.36
>     > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
>     <tagging at openstreetmap.org <mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>>
>     > Subject: Re: [Tagging] StreetComplete 10 / foot=yes on residential
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > sent from a phone
>     >
>     >> On 14. Feb 2019, at 10:26, Florian Lohoff <f at zz.de
>     <mailto:f at zz.de>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> All residentials are accessible to pedestrians so i a bit puzzled
>     what
>     >> this challenge is good for. It just adds redundant tags to all roads.
>     >
>     >
>     > I agree the default is accessibility for everyone on non-motorroad
>     roads. There might be residential roads with private access (in the
>     occasions I met where access was private I was tending towards
>     service, although with general public access I would have called
>     them residentials).
>     >
>     > Cheers, Martin
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