[Tagging] Mistagging footways as highway=pedestrian

Janko Mihelić janjko at gmail.com
Thu Feb 28 11:57:39 UTC 2019


I think we should add a new type of footway, and then render it the way
people like. For example, footway=alley. Wikipedia page for alley has
photos of exactly the old town streets as I believe you are talking about.
That way service=alley is reserved for American type alleys for garbage
trucks, and footway=alley is reserved for old town streets.

I looked at tag info, there are 102 footway=alley tags already.

The war plan looks like this:
1. create a wiki page for footway=alley
1. add footway=alley to old towns that managed to keep highway=footway tags,
2. reach a critical mass of tags, add rendering that is similar to
pedestrian,
3. retag pedestrian tags.

Janko


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 14:01 Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at tutanota.com>
wrote:

> I created https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/17391 and
> https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/5991
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>
> Maybe this is a good idea, maybe it will be implemented and maybe it will
> help to keep control
> over situation.
>
>
> Feb 26, 2019, 3:30 PM by dieterdreist at gmail.com:
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> Am Di., 26. Feb. 2019 um 14:40 Uhr schrieb Sergio Manzi <smz at smz.it>:
>
> ... and not only cycleways: have a look here, where I live:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/45.4364/12.3334
>
> All are "highway=pedestrian", at the same level, but believe me: they are
> not!
>
>
>
>
> Venice is a globally unique (or maybe almost unique) exception anyway, but
> what we currently have there is the result of people reclassifying all the
> footways as pedestrian roads, even if they are 50 cm wide. I have started
> in the past several attempts to open a discussion on this, but it felt like
> Don Quixote. See this as an example:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/488627565/history I have surveyed it
> myself, like many others, where I began to reclassify the very narrow
> footpaths from pedestrian to footway, but I am not local and people destroy
> the finer grained distinction of footway and pedestrian as soon as you add
> them, I guess they do not want the red dots. It is unfortunate, because it
> makes the Venice map much harder to read and less useful. If you are local,
> please try to improve the situation, we do not need new tags, it would be
> sufficient to apply the existing ones consistently rather than
> indiscriminately.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
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>
>
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