[Tagging] Creating shop=caravan
61sundowner at gmail.com
Mon Jan 14 01:12:35 UTC 2019
On 14/01/19 11:52, Dave Swarthout wrote:
> Nope, a mobile home is not the same as an RV or travel_trailer. Have a
> look at the illustrations on the Wikipedia page. It is, as the
> Wikipedia definition says, a prefabricated structure meant for
> permanent living. It has wheels, hence the mobile part of its name but
> it's moved very infrequently, sometimes only from the factory to its
> location inside of a, here's another American term, trailer park.
Used as permanent homes <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home>, or for
holiday or temporary accommodation
Note the OR .. so are not just permanent homes?
> An aside: As I consider this thread and the problems we're having with
> terminology I came to the realization that most countries don't have
> such things as we do in the U.S. Some of the motorhomes you see on
> American highways are behemoths based on a full-size bus chassis,
> powered by big rear-mounted diesel engines. I'd be willing to bet that
> no other country has anything even approaching the sheer size of these
> things. And they are quite common here. And are they expensive? Yep.
> 100 to 200K USD and up.
Much much bigger than that. I know of one that is a tractor trailer
(semitrailer in Australian).
> Anyway, how best to describe the plethora of such vehicles, in the
> U.S. especially where they are so common, in one word? The term
> motorhome fits such monsters and works for many other smaller vehicles
> like your garden variety Winnebagos and extended van conversions but
> cannot describe unpowered trailers or, in British vernacular, caravans.
> Where do we go from here?
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 6:43 AM Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
> On 14/01/19 09:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> Wow, so much for me naively thinking that caravan was a universal
>> word! Should know better by now :-)
>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 21:58, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:pla16021 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> However, there does appear to be a better term. From
>> (the bold emphasis is mine):
>> Motorhomes are part of the much larger associated group of
>> *mobile homes* which includes
>> caravans, also known as tourers, and static caravans.
>> So mobile_home appears to cover it.
>> Not really, sorry
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_home: "A *mobile home* (also
>> *trailer*, *trailer home*, *house trailer*, *static caravan*,
>> *residential caravan*) is a prefabricated
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefabrication>structure, built in
>> a factory on a permanently attached chassis before being
>> transported to site (either by being towed or on a trailer). Used
>> as permanent homes <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home>, or for
>> holiday or temporary accommodation, they are left often
>> permanently or semi-permanently in one place"
> It would cover those things that slide in and out of utility
> vehicles and act as accommodation.
> I think the 'mobile home' is an acceptable term to cover the lot.
> Why is it unacceptable?
> The emphasise on 'permanent' I think is wrong, but there is enough
> vagueness to accept that 'mobile' means mobile.
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