[Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Mon Jan 14 01:12:35 UTC 2019

On 14/01/19 11:52, Dave Swarthout wrote:
> Nope, a mobile home is not the same as an RV or travel_trailer. Have a 
> look at the illustrations on the Wikipedia page. It is, as the 
> Wikipedia definition says, a prefabricated structure meant for 
> permanent living. It has wheels, hence the mobile part of its name but 
> it's moved very infrequently, sometimes only from the factory to its 
> location inside of a, here's another American term, trailer park.

Wikipedia says
Used as permanent homes <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home>, or for 
holiday or temporary accommodation

Note the OR .. so are not just permanent homes?

> An aside: As I consider this thread and the problems we're having with 
> terminology I came to the realization that most countries don't have 
> such things as we do in the U.S. Some of the motorhomes you see on 
> American highways are behemoths based on a full-size bus chassis, 
> powered by big rear-mounted diesel engines. I'd be willing to bet that 
> no other country has anything even approaching the sheer size of these 
> things. And they are quite common here. And are they expensive? Yep. 
> 100 to 200K USD and up.

Much much bigger than that. I know of one that is a tractor trailer 
(semitrailer in Australian).
> Anyway, how best to describe the plethora of such vehicles, in the 
> U.S. especially where they are so common, in one word? The term 
> motorhome fits such monsters and works for many other smaller vehicles 
> like your garden variety Winnebagos and extended van conversions but 
> cannot describe unpowered trailers or, in British vernacular, caravans.
> Where do we go from here?
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 6:43 AM Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com 
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     On 14/01/19 09:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>     Wow, so much for me naively thinking that caravan was a universal
>>     word! Should know better by now :-)
>>     On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 21:58, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:pla16021 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>         However, there does appear to be a better term.  From
>>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorhome
>>         (the bold emphasis is mine):
>>         Motorhomes are part of the much larger associated group of
>>         *mobile homes* which includes
>>         caravans, also known as tourers, and static caravans.
>>         So mobile_home appears to cover it.
>>     Not really, sorry
>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_home: "A *mobile home* (also
>>     *trailer*, *trailer home*, *house trailer*, *static caravan*,
>>     *residential caravan*) is a prefabricated
>>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefabrication>structure, built in
>>     a factory on a permanently attached chassis before being
>>     transported to site (either by being towed or on a trailer). Used
>>     as permanent homes <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home>, or for
>>     holiday or temporary accommodation, they are left often
>>     permanently or semi-permanently in one place"
>     It would cover those things that slide in and out of utility
>     vehicles and act as accommodation.
>     I think the 'mobile home' is an acceptable term to cover the lot.
>     Why is it unacceptable?
>     The emphasise on 'permanent' I think is wrong, but there is enough
>     vagueness to accept that 'mobile' means mobile.
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