[Tagging] Trailhead tagging

Peter Elderson pelderson at gmail.com
Mon Jan 14 22:29:43 UTC 2019

I agree. I never meant to exclude any significant path to a trail, even if it’s ‘ just’ a path, it can of course be significant because it’s the only access point in miles, even if it has no official name, and that’s precisely why I keep saying it’s up to the mappers. 

Mvg Peter Elderson

> Op 14 jan. 2019 om 23:04 heeft Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:16 PM Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> No - it really isn't.  That was my entire point.  I'm willing to bet a
>> small round of beer in the pub up the road that almost no-one walking
>> past that info board will say "oh look - that's a trailhead for the TPT".
> On the other hand, I'll bet you a beer in Lake Placid that at least
> half the people in the bar at the Adirondack Hotel in Long Lake
> village would recognize that this sign
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ke9tv/14920080943/ - which simply stands
> on the roadside at a path going into the woods, with no other
> facilities right there - marks a trailhead for the Northville-Placid
> Trail. (When I say 'no other facilities right there,' what I mean is
> that there's a town about 4-5 km down the highway, and it's an easy
> walk on the shoulder(verge) or an equally easy hitch.)
> It's an important trailhead. Shattuck Clearing on the sign is the site
> of a FORMER ranger station that burnt in the 1960's. Since its road
> hasn't been maintained since then, it's grown to trees and entirely
> impassable to anything on wheels, so while it serves as a landmark,
> it's not an opportunity to get help or leave the trail. If you hike in
> at that trailhead, except for a handful of spots on a lake where it
> would be possible to land a canoe or water-taxi a float plane, there's
> no other way out closer than Lake Placid. It's 58.6 km to the next
> highway, about 63 km if you're walking to the town - or to turn around
> back the way you came. "The last chance to leave the trail for the
> next two or three days" is kind of important to map!
> I'm therefore going to stick with 'designated or customary place to
> begin or end a trip on a trail.'
> As long as Peter is agreed that not all trailheads are anything
> resembling TOP's and not all TOP's are trailheads, I think we're in
> rough agreement. Where I get a bit prickly is at sweeping assertions
> like "a trailhead must be something more than where a path crosses a
> road."  When you're on a trail where it's 60 km between roads (the NPT
> crosses four paved roads in 222 km), you're damned right that anywhere
> that the trail crosses a road is a trailhead!
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