[Tagging] Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to map?

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Thu Jan 24 05:07:55 UTC 2019

Chillagoe sounds like a village. It’s “only” 205 km (127 mi) W of the city
of Cairns

Does it have a secondary school, eg for 14 to 18 year olds?

The only town-level service is the “hospital”, but does it really offer
full services?

> There are another half a dozen other small/er settlements within ~150k of
Chillagoe for which it is "town".

A town should usually serve more than a half dozen hamlets. That’s a

> “literally hundreds of similar towns.”

That’s probably too many towns for a country with as low a population at

> “SW US”

Americans in the rural West are used to driving for 2 to 3 hours to the
nearest town, 200 to 300km away. We used to drive 150km to town once or
twice a month. So most small settlements are losing their shops and
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:49 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>

> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 12:09, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 24/01/19 12:50, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
>> It’s not possible to have “town” level services with less than 1000
>> people. A town has a major market (retail area) serving the surrounding
>> area, as well as basic educational, cultural and government facilities.
>> That is the usual interpretation (& certainly matches the Western Europe
> / US definition) but here is an example of what I'm talking about:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-17.1494/144.5257
> Chillagoe has a population, according to the 2016 census, of 251 people,
> so it "should" only be a =hamlet. However, it has a school, police station,
> general store, hardware store, post office, 2 pub's, 2 museums, hospital,
> bitumen airfield &, as it's a tourist destination in it's own right, about
> 6 caravan parks / camping grounds!
> Dimbulah is ~100k to the east & is a bit bigger, but doesn't have a
> hospital, & only an unsealed airstrip.
> The next major town west is Normanton, which is ~700k away!
> There are another half a dozen other small/er settlements within ~150k of
> Chillagoe for which it is "town".
>> In your area of the world I agree. You have a 'good' population density.
>> In some places the nearest neighbour can be 400 km away. The population
>> 'centre' may have much less than 1,000 people in the local residential area
>> .. but may service 1,000s of square kilometres.
>> Necessity makes this population centre very important for the few people
>> living in that area.
> Yep! Have just started a discussion on the Australia list concerning this
> very point, after taking to somebody who lives in this area, & who made the
> comment that OSM is a bit useless, because when you open it, all you see is
> a massive blankness :-(
> & this, by no means, is an isolated example - Australia would have
> literally hundreds of similar towns. I would think the same would probably
> apply in places like Canada, Alaska, SW US, South Africa & a number of
> other civilised but empty countries?
> Thanks
> Graeme
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