[Tagging] Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to map?

Marc Gemis marc.gemis at gmail.com
Thu Jan 24 06:50:33 UTC 2019


I wonder how puzzled someone would be when they look at the original
question "how to map scrub in forests" and then, without going through
the whole thread, sees e.g the following mail in that thread:

p.s. Joseph, please don't take this personally, I could have picked
another mail, but yours was the last.

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 6:09 AM Joseph Eisenberg
<joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Chillagoe sounds like a village. It’s “only” 205 km (127 mi) W of the city of Cairns
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> Does it have a secondary school, eg for 14 to 18 year olds?
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> The only town-level service is the “hospital”, but does it really offer full services?
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> > There are another half a dozen other small/er settlements within ~150k of Chillagoe for which it is "town".
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> A town should usually serve more than a half dozen hamlets. That’s a “village.”
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> > “literally hundreds of similar towns.”
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> That’s probably too many towns for a country with as low a population at Australia.
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> > “SW US”
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> Americans in the rural West are used to driving for 2 to 3 hours to the nearest town, 200 to 300km away. We used to drive 150km to town once or twice a month. So most small settlements are losing their shops and businesses.
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:49 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 12:09, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On 24/01/19 12:50, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
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>>> It’s not possible to have “town” level services with less than 1000 people. A town has a major market (retail area) serving the surrounding area, as well as basic educational, cultural and government facilities.
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>> That is the usual interpretation (& certainly matches the Western Europe / US definition) but here is an example of what I'm talking about: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-17.1494/144.5257
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>> Chillagoe has a population, according to the 2016 census, of 251 people, so it "should" only be a =hamlet. However, it has a school, police station, general store, hardware store, post office, 2 pub's, 2 museums, hospital, bitumen airfield &, as it's a tourist destination in it's own right, about 6 caravan parks / camping grounds!
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>> Dimbulah is ~100k to the east & is a bit bigger, but doesn't have a hospital, & only an unsealed airstrip.
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>> The next major town west is Normanton, which is ~700k away!
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>> There are another half a dozen other small/er settlements within ~150k of Chillagoe for which it is "town".
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>>> In your area of the world I agree. You have a 'good' population density.
>>> In some places the nearest neighbour can be 400 km away. The population 'centre' may have much less than 1,000 people in the local residential area .. but may service 1,000s of square kilometres.
>>> Necessity makes this population centre very important for the few people living in that area.
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>> Yep! Have just started a discussion on the Australia list concerning this very point, after taking to somebody who lives in this area, & who made the comment that OSM is a bit useless, because when you open it, all you see is a massive blankness :-(
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>> & this, by no means, is an isolated example - Australia would have literally hundreds of similar towns. I would think the same would probably apply in places like Canada, Alaska, SW US, South Africa & a number of other civilised but empty countries?
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>> Thanks
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>> Graeme
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