[Tagging] disclosing grant (was Re: Maxweight wiki page changes)

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Wed Jul 3 12:52:38 UTC 2019


I was unsure how much the grant that I disclosed in
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/368849 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/368849> 
should be mentioned (it is mostly offtopic here and mentioning it everywhere would be 
spammy) but to explain situation in a bit of detail

- "it is clearly that the success of what Mateusz is working on is in the end dependent
on you accepting and merging it" - I will be still paid in case that what I will make will be
rejected and not included in StreetComplete (obviously, not applicable to cases with
broken patches rejected as not working). In such case I would release fork 
(in case of patches rejected for legitimate reasons it would be done solely to
confirm that I actually implemented it but for some unforeseen reason it turned out to be a bad idea).

- "should be disclosing that Mateusz is being paid to work on your project"
If anyone should be mentioning this - then it should be me.

- https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/issues/361 <https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/issues/361> was proposed and planned
before even idea of the grant appeared and I deliberately focused on ideas that predated grant,
especially for ones that involve some tagging decisions
Note posting date of
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:maxweight#Support_for_.22no_weight_limit.22 <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:maxweight#Support_for_.22no_weight_limit.22>

- selection of things that I planned to do was entirely on my side and with rare exceptions of explicitly
listed tasks (like bypassing of censorship of Overpass Turbo in Russia) I am completely 
free to change/modify tasks that I am working on. In case of someone else starting their
own work or presenting good ideas why things from 
https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/issues <https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/issues> should not be implemented
I have no problem with changing what will be done.

I can quote something like
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/368849 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/368849> under every posting
tangentially related to implemented PRs but I am not convinced that it would be a good idea
(I even included it in my initial mail draft and deleted it as a spammy self-promotion offtopic to this list).
(should I also disclose that mentioning that my work on StreetComplete is sponsored by this
grant is encouraged by my grant?)

What would you think would be appropriate way of handling this?

Mention that it is related to a grant and include link to
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/368849 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/368849> ?

Is anything missing in this diary entry?

Do something else?

3 Jul 2019, 13:03 by simon at poole.ch <mailto:simon at poole.ch>:

> Could both of you be a bit more transparent about the situation. You
> should be disclosing that Mateusz is being paid to work on your project
> and while not a direct employer-employee relationship, it is clearly
> that the success of what Mateusz is working on is in the end dependent
> on you accepting and merging it, and so you are not commenting on just
> random third party wiki edits.
>
> Am 03.07.2019 um 12:52 schrieb Tobias Zwick:
>
>> Reviewed it. That is some impressive work, thank you for this!
>>
>> A few remarks:
>>
>> 1. Maxweight
>>
>> 1.1 At the examples: for max empty weight, I propose the key maxemptyweight. It suggests itself.
>>
>> 1.2 At the examples: Conditionals should maybe better be catch-all, so i.e. axles>=3 instead of axles=3
>>
>> 2. Maxweightrating:
>>
>> 2.1 At the examples, Poland: This sign is actually an access restriction for all HGVs: hgv=no. By definition in EU laws and most other countries, a heavy goods vehicle is a goods vehicle with a GVWR of 3.5t and above. See the wiki page for Key:hgv for a longer explanation.
>>
>> 3. Maxaxleload mentions that weight in USA must always be given in short tons while the maxweight article also mentions pounds. Same with the article about maxbogieweight.
>>
>> 4. Maxbogieweight in Romania: I'd say a tri-axle is still a bogie.
>>
>> Tobias 🌴
>>
>>
>> On July 3, 2019 9:43:12 AM GMT+01:00, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at tutanota.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There were recently significant changes at OSM Wiki page about
>>> maxweight tag
>>> and related tags. Review is welcomed.
>>>
>>> See
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxweight
>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxweight> - major changes
>>> included fixing mistakes
>>> in examples, adding additional examples, reformatting, documenting how
>>> object without max weight
>>> sign may be tagged
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxweightrating
>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxweightrating> - page itself
>>> is quite new. Recent changes
>>> included reformatting and new examples
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxaxleload
>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxaxleload> - smaller
>>> changes, but for completeness:
>>> fixing mistake and additional examples
>>>
>>> Again, review is welcomed!
>>>
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