[Tagging] Rethinking Map Features

Paul Allen pla16021 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 11 08:53:38 UTC 2019

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 at 00:47, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>

> So how do we go with creating a page for a tag that is "in use" but has
> apparently never been discussed?

Same way you create any page.  Search for the key, or key=value and if it
doesn't already
exist the Wiki offers to let you create it.

Oh, you mean how do you create a page for an in-use, but undocumented, key
or value
in a way that won't cause somebody to throw a wobbler and insist you delete
the page?
That's probably not possible. :)

Last week, I asked about a Christmas shop, thinking about tagging it as
> shop=party, but it was pointed out that shop=christmas has actually been
> used 14 times, but apparently has never been discussed anywhere?
> Does that make it "in use" / "de facto"?

Yes.  One of those.  Probably.

Am I OK to just create a page for shop=christmas, so other people know it
> exists, or should it go through the full RFC / voting procedure to be
> "approved"?

>From  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shop#Others you are allowed
to have user-defined
values for shops.  There's a bit of a chicken and egg situation, because it
implies you can only
use a user-defined value if it is commonly used (how common?) in taginfo,
which it won't be
until somebody uses it, which they can't because it's not in taginfo.

That said, if it is commonly used, or obviously (to most) sensible, then
I'd just add it to the shop
page and possibly create a page for the value.  Argument for: some editors
interrogate the
OSM wiki and/or OSM wikidata to populate drop-downs, so adding a page for
the value ensures
(maybe) it will appear in the drop-down.  Argument against: same as the
argument for, except
with things like denomination it ends up being a very large drop-down
(except denomination
appears no longer to get the drop-down populated by that mechanism).

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