[Tagging] Once more: the village_green - increase in misuse.

Peter Elderson pelderson at gmail.com
Fri Jul 19 06:04:20 UTC 2019

Hm.. village_common still says village, where often these areas are no
longer in a village.

Vr gr Peter Elderson

Op vr 19 jul. 2019 om 00:42 schreef Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com>:

>  As Kevin Kenny says.
> The key 'landuse' is big misused for land covers.
> And this predominately is because of the tag landuse=grass.
> While this exists OSM can expect the key 'landuse' to be used (misused)
> for land covers of all descriptions.
> If the key 'landuse' is only used for the human use of the land - free of
> any hint of the cover then there may be some hope of resolving
> 'village_green'.
> In Australia there is the 'village common' - land held for common use,
> this might get away form the 'green' aspect of grass. The rendering colour
> could also be closer to that of schools and hospitals, again away from the
> colour green.
> On 19/07/19 07:59, Peter Elderson wrote:
> In Nederland there are many of village_green like areas, used for
> community events, but without a formal status. I would support tagging
> these as village_green. Larger cities tend to have several of these areas,
> often because villages have been incorporated but the central area has
> retained its function as "village green" in the neighourhood. Let's join
> the countries that already do this.
> I would also gladly help retagging areas wrongly tagged as village_green.
> It's used a lot but nothing we couldn't fix in a project, if we agree on a
> clear convention.
> Vr gr Peter Elderson
> Op do 18 jul. 2019 om 23:31 schreef Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com>:
>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:07 AM marc marc <marc_marc_irc at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > The only way to have a chance to get away with it is to depreciate
>> > this tag (at least outside uk but maybe also in uk) in favor of a tag
>> > by meaning instead of having a multi-meaning tag
>> landuse=grass is horrible, since it describes a landcover rather than
>> a land use, but it's plausible for those things that aren't village
>> greens.
>> If you make an exception inside the UK for 'village_green', remember
>> that some of us former colonies have them too. Lots of New England
>> villages follow the general pattern of villages in Merrie Olde
>> England, and (at least historically) have a village hall, a school, a
>> church, and shops clustered about a village green or common. (All the
>> buildings in modern times may have been repurposed, but the village
>> green is likely still there.)
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