[Tagging] Once more: the village_green - increase in misuse.
Warin
61sundowner at gmail.com
Fri Jul 19 10:36:18 UTC 2019
I think they are at least close to the village, if not within it, in the
UK and Australia.
On 19/07/19 16:04, Peter Elderson wrote:
> Hm.. village_common still says village, where often these areas are no
> longer in a village.
>
> Vr gr Peter Elderson
>
>
> Op vr 19 jul. 2019 om 00:42 schreef Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>>:
>
> As Kevin Kenny says.
>
> The key 'landuse' is big misused for land covers.
>
> And this predominately is because of the tag landuse=grass.
> While this exists OSM can expect the key 'landuse' to be used
> (misused) for land covers of all descriptions.
>
> If the key 'landuse' is only used for the human use of the land -
> free of any hint of the cover then there may be some hope of
> resolving 'village_green'.
> In Australia there is the 'village common' - land held for common
> use, this might get away form the 'green' aspect of grass. The
> rendering colour could also be closer to that of schools and
> hospitals, again away from the colour green.
>
>
> On 19/07/19 07:59, Peter Elderson wrote:
>> In Nederland there are many of village_green like areas, used for
>> community events, but without a formal status. I would support
>> tagging these as village_green. Larger cities tend to have
>> several of these areas, often because villages have been
>> incorporated but the central area has retained its function as
>> "village green" in the neighourhood. Let's join the countries
>> that already do this.
>>
>> I would also gladly help retagging areas wrongly tagged as
>> village_green. It's used a lot but nothing we couldn't fix in a
>> project, if we agree on a clear convention.
>>
>> Vr gr Peter Elderson
>>
>>
>> Op do 18 jul. 2019 om 23:31 schreef Kevin Kenny
>> <kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com <mailto:kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com>>:
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:07 AM marc marc
>> <marc_marc_irc at hotmail.com
>> <mailto:marc_marc_irc at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > The only way to have a chance to get away with it is to
>> depreciate
>> > this tag (at least outside uk but maybe also in uk) in
>> favor of a tag
>> > by meaning instead of having a multi-meaning tag
>>
>> landuse=grass is horrible, since it describes a landcover
>> rather than
>> a land use, but it's plausible for those things that aren't
>> village
>> greens.
>>
>> If you make an exception inside the UK for 'village_green',
>> remember
>> that some of us former colonies have them too. Lots of New
>> England
>> villages follow the general pattern of villages in Merrie Olde
>> England, and (at least historically) have a village hall, a
>> school, a
>> church, and shops clustered about a village green or common.
>> (All the
>> buildings in modern times may have been repurposed, but the
>> village
>> green is likely still there.)
>>
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