[Tagging] Once more: the village_green - increase in misuse.

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Fri Jul 19 10:36:18 UTC 2019

I think they are at least close to the village, if not within it, in the 
UK and Australia.

On 19/07/19 16:04, Peter Elderson wrote:
> Hm.. village_common still says village, where often these areas are no 
> longer in a village.
> Vr gr Peter Elderson
> Op vr 19 jul. 2019 om 00:42 schreef Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com 
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>>:
>      As Kevin Kenny says.
>     The key 'landuse' is big misused for land covers.
>     And this predominately is because of the tag landuse=grass.
>     While this exists OSM can expect the key 'landuse' to be used
>     (misused) for land covers of all descriptions.
>     If the key 'landuse' is only used for the human use of the land -
>     free of any hint of the cover then there may be some hope of
>     resolving 'village_green'.
>     In Australia there is the 'village common' - land held for common
>     use, this might get away form the 'green' aspect of grass. The
>     rendering colour could also be closer to that of schools and
>     hospitals, again away from the colour green.
>     On 19/07/19 07:59, Peter Elderson wrote:
>>     In Nederland there are many of village_green like areas, used for
>>     community events, but without a formal status. I would support
>>     tagging these as village_green. Larger cities tend to have
>>     several of these areas, often because villages have been
>>     incorporated but the central area has retained its function as
>>     "village green" in the neighourhood. Let's join the countries
>>     that already do this.
>>     I would also gladly help retagging areas wrongly tagged as
>>     village_green. It's used a lot but nothing we couldn't fix in a
>>     project, if we agree on a clear convention.
>>     Vr gr Peter Elderson
>>     Op do 18 jul. 2019 om 23:31 schreef Kevin Kenny
>>     <kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com <mailto:kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com>>:
>>         On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:07 AM marc marc
>>         <marc_marc_irc at hotmail.com
>>         <mailto:marc_marc_irc at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>         >
>>         > The only way to have a chance to get away with it is to
>>         depreciate
>>         > this tag (at least outside uk but maybe also in uk) in
>>         favor of a tag
>>         > by meaning instead of having a multi-meaning tag
>>         landuse=grass is horrible, since it describes a landcover
>>         rather than
>>         a land use, but it's plausible for those things that aren't
>>         village
>>         greens.
>>         If you make an exception inside the UK for 'village_green',
>>         remember
>>         that some of us former colonies have them too. Lots of New
>>         England
>>         villages follow the general pattern of villages in Merrie Olde
>>         England, and (at least historically) have a village hall, a
>>         school, a
>>         church, and shops clustered about a village green or common.
>>         (All the
>>         buildings in modern times may have been repurposed, but the
>>         village
>>         green is likely still there.)

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