[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - health_amenity:type

Fri Jul 26 00:19:20 UTC 2019

There are still 2  problems with healthcare:equipment:

1) Healthcare:equipment is yet another new feature key for database users
to support, if tagged on its own node at the location of the MRI. This
requires Osm20gsql users like the main Openstreetmap-Carto style to reload
the whole planet database before this key can be supported for rendering,
routing or search applications. Using amenity=MRI or healthcare=MRI would
be easier for current database users to support and it’s shorter for
mappers to type.

2) If you want to add this as a tag to an amenity=hospital, then you can’t
add both an MRI and a CT scanner, for example, since a key can only have
one value.

So in that case you still need MRI=yes as an addition key to tag on an
existing facility. I suspect this tagging will be more common than mapping
the MRI separately, and it certainly will be more common for ultrasounds,
which are on wheels (casters) usually and can move around the hospital.

Joseph

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 4:01 AM Mhairi O'Hara <mhairi.ohara at hotosm.org>
wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> I completely agree with Warin that the *health_amenity:type* tag is
> pretty confusing as to what its referring to. I was trying to stay in line
> with what was proposed previously, but in retrospect it would be better to
> move away from previous efforts and vote in a tag that is straight forward
> and easy to understand (says what it is).
>
> The main aim for the tag is to encapsulate that its related to health
> equipment, so how about *healthcare:equipment*?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Mhairi
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 4:43 PM Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is about the equipment available?
>>
>> Using the principle of 'say what it is' ...
>>
>> medical_equipment=MRI ??? Assuming the tag is for equipment.
>>
>> Calling the key health_amenity:type "in use" is a stretch - 40 uses ..
>> and most of these are for first aid kits!
>> The next most popular is "scales".
>> Fist aid kits have the tag emergency=first_aid_kit ... which is more
>> popular (170) despite it being a "draft".
>>
>> No, I don't think is is "in use" nor has it been used in a sensible way.
>> Probably because "type" can mean anything.
>>
>> health_facility:type has the same problem, despite being more popular,
>> uses are for
>> dispensary
>> office
>> clinic
>> hospital
>> etc
>>
>>
>> On 14/07/19 23:18, François Lacombe wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> I agree with your choice to specifiy which service are available in a
>> given facility.
>> This doesn't require to add :type in the name of the key. Such suffixe
>> don't bring any information.
>> Your proposal would be way better if you use health_amenit=MRI at least
>> instead
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> François
>>
>> Le jeu. 11 juil. 2019 à 21:10, Mark Herringer <mark at healthsites.io> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> The intention of the tag is to specify physical equipment
>>> (health_amenity:type=MRI) and should be used in conjunction with
>>> amenity=clinic to show that the health facility contains that specialised
>>> equipment. This will enable mappers say that "this clinic contains an MRI"
>>> ᐧ
>>>
>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 08:15, Joseph Eisenberg <
>>> joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 4) health_amenity:type
>>>>
>>>> I think the key "healthcare" should be used instead of the new key
>>>> health_amenity:type". If it's necessary to tag an MRI facility
>>>> separately, then create a tag like "healthcare=mri".
>>>>
>>>>  However, it may be more useful to use a tag like "mri=yes" on the
>>>> main amenity=hospital or the radiology department within the medical
>>>> centre - this tag would let mappers say that "this hospital contains
>>>> an MRI" without requiring mappers to precisely locate the MRI
>>>> equipment within the building. This would also make it easier for
>>>> database users: they can just check for "amenity=hospital" + "mri=yes"
>>>> rather than doing a spacial query to find MRI nodes within or near an
>>>> amenity=hospital feature
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/20/19, Mhairi O'Hara <mhairi.ohara at hotosm.org> wrote:
>>>> > Hello Tagging Mailing List,
>>>> >
>>>> > We would like to bring your attention and comments on the proposal
>>>> for the
>>>> > staff_count:doctors and staff_count:nurses tags, which helps identify
>>>> the
>>>> > number of doctors and nurses at a given health facility [1][2]. The
>>>> > operational_status tag, which has been proposed before and I would
>>>> like to
>>>> > highlight again, as this is used to document an observation of the
>>>> current
>>>> > functional status of a mapped feature (i.e. health facility) [3]. The
>>>> > health_amenity:type tag is also being proposed, as this indicates
>>>> what type
>>>> > of speciality medical equipment is available at the health facility
>>>> [4] and
>>>> > the final tag is insurance:health which describes the type of health
>>>> > insurance accepted at a health facility [5].
>>>> >
>>>> > Some of these are already in use but have never been formally
>>>> accepted, or
>>>> > properly described as to how they should be applied, which we would
>>>> like to
>>>> > try and achieve if possible for the Healthsites.io project. Please
>>>> take a
>>>> > look at the proposal pages on the OSM Wiki, as well as the Global
>>>> > Healthsites Mapping Project page [2] which is at the core of the
>>>> recent
>>>> > work focused on creating a health facility data model. We look
>>>> forward to
>>>> > discussing these proposals on the respective Wiki discussion pages.
>>>> >
>>>> > Kind regards,
>>>> >
>>>> > Mhairi
>>>> >
>>>> > [1]
>>>> >
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:staff_count:doctors
>>>> > [2]
>>>> >
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:staff_count:nurses
>>>> > [3]
>>>> >
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:operational_status
>>>> > [4]
>>>> >
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:health_amenity:type
>>>> > [5]
>>>> >
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:insurance:health
>>>> > [6]
>>>> >
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Global_Healthsites_Mapping_Project#Tag_Proposal
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > *Mhairi O'Hara*
>>>> > Project Manager
>>>> > mhairi.ohara at hotosm.org
>>>> > @mataharimhairi
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kind regards
>>> Mark Herringer
>>>
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