[Tagging] refugee camp

Violaine_Do violaine_osm at posteo.de
Wed Jun 19 23:49:58 UTC 2019

I wanted to point out also a few questions or thoughts : i am not sure 
it is ok (or pretty sure it is dangerous) to tag houses or group of 
houses with refugee=yes because it is quite localised and could be a 
sensitive information.

Then I am not a big fan of 
amenity=social_facility+social_facility:for=refugee for spotting a whole 
camp, as it is recurrent that there is social facilities in this camp, 
and so it will lead to errors such as "impossible to have an amenity 
inside an amenity".

Looking forward to read HOT views,


On 12/06/2019 23:29, Rupert Allan wrote:
> Hello all,
> Thanks Violaine, for sharing this. Yes, we did a lot of work on these 
> semantics and tagging in the Ugandan context. We use refugee = yes, 
> because designated refugee areas are not always 'camps' (settlements, 
> urban blocks, etc).
> 'Camp' can be pejorative/othering in certain contexts. IDPs as 
> Internally Displayed Persons are certainly refugees. I copy-in Paul 
> Uithol and Deo Kiggudde to collaborate in this discussion. Having 
> limited online access, I will monitor and comment more next week, once 
> back online proper.
> Best,
> Rupert
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2019, 21:45 Violaine, <violaine at posteo.net 
> <mailto:violaine at posteo.net>> wrote:
>     fyi, i think you could help on this discussion...
>     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>     Subject: 	Re: [Tagging] refugee camp
>     Date: 	Wed, 12 Jun 2019 10:44:34 -1000
>     From: 	Violaine_Do <violaine_osm at posteo.de>
>     <mailto:violaine_osm at posteo.de>
>     Reply-To: 	violaine_osm at posteo.de <mailto:violaine_osm at posteo.de>
>     Organization: 	OSM
>     To: 	Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
>     <mailto:dieterdreist at gmail.com>, daveswarthout at gmail.com
>     <mailto:daveswarthout at gmail.com>, Tag discussion, strategy and
>     related tools <tagging at openstreetmap.org>
>     <mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>
>     CC: 	Rupert Allan <rupert.allan at hotosm.org>
>     <mailto:rupert.allan at hotosm.org>
>     As wikipedia (1) seems to say refugee camp implies internally
>     displaced people it seem ok to me. (i was wondering if IDP was a
>     type of refugees or different)
>     Maybe add a refugee_camp:for=refugee/idp..., refugee_camp:type=
>     informal/...
>     I still want to point out that there is more than 2500 use of
>     refugee=yes (2) so I add Allan to this discussion, hoping he has
>     some more field feedbacks, what having this new tag would imply..
>     1:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee_camp
>     2:https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/refugee#overview
>     On 11/06/2019 21:51, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>     I would prefer something like refugee_camp=yes or similar.
>>     Cheers, Martin
>     -- 
>     Violaine_Do

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