[Tagging] Mapping curb (kerb) lines as the home of curb, parking, etc information
clifford at snowandsnow.us
Tue Mar 5 00:14:56 UTC 2019
For anyone interested in listening to Lou Huang's talk, I found it on
Youtube. It starts at about 42:00 and ends at 48:00
On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:02 PM Nick Bolten <nbolten at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Can we please first define a solution (e.g. a relation) for connecting
> such separately mapped components of a road to the highway?
> I agree, this is a very important issue and it happens for a lot of
> different situations - a lot of different features that can and are mapped
> separately would benefit from a street <-> separate feature mapping. This
> is the incentive behind mapping streets, auto lanes, bus lanes, bicycle
> lanes, sidewalks, verges, etc. on the street: the relationship query is
> unnecessary, the information is shared in the way.
> Stable IDs would help with this problem, but I haven't seen much traction
> behind adding core features to data types. What would you think of a new
> 'associatedStreet'-style relation that would organize the various features
> that should be associated between streets and the surrounding environment?
> Example members (with no particular naming/role conventions in mind):
> - The street way(s).
> - Any separate bicycle way(s).
> - Left sidewalk way(s)
> - Right sidewalk way(s)
> - Left curb(s)
> - Right curb(s)
> Other info that *might* benefit from either this or a similar relation:
> - Building(s) / addresses (as France does)
> - Greenways (trees / tree lines / verges)
> - Traffic islands (a common use case for barrier=kerb ways
> - Some street signs (some should probably be in a different relation
> involving more than one way)
> This is certainly a lot of members, and not all are necessary, but I think
> there's value in traversing between these data in, as you mention, a
> machine-readable way.
> > This fundamental limitation really needs to be addressed before we
> consider splitting roads into even more parallel ways.
> Just to clarify, the road can keep all of its same data as is currently
> mapped. This would be an additional piece of information that tends to go
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 12:05 PM Tobias Knerr <osm at tobias-knerr.de> wrote:
>> On 03.03.19 20:12, Nick Bolten wrote:
>> > I wanted to get a discussion started to see what people think of
>> > mapping curbs as ways.
>> Can we please first define a solution (e.g. a relation) for connecting
>> such separately mapped components of a road to the highway?
>> Painting lines next to each other fails to express the important
>> information that this kerb/sidewalk/cycleway is part of that highway
>> over there. Such missing information may be easily guessed by a human
>> viewer, but it's currently not available in a machine-readable form.
>> This fundamental limitation really needs to be addressed before we
>> consider splitting roads into even more parallel ways.
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