[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Runway Holding Positions

Steven Estes tapestes at gmail.com
Fri Mar 29 01:02:05 UTC 2019

This sounds reasonable to me.  I'm new to OSM and didn't know about the
subtag option.  I'll probably let the discussion go for a bit longer, but
this seems like the best course of action.  Thanks.

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 5:59 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>

> On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 04:34, Mark Wagner <mark+osm at carnildo.com> wrote:
>> How does this differ from aeroway=holding_position
> On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 06:04, Steven Estes <tapestes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Tackle this a bit on the proposal page, which notes that holding_position
>> as currently formulated has two limitations. First, it's  fairly broad.  It
>> includes runway holding position markings, ILS critical holding position
>> markings, and interim holding position markings.  Each of these markings is
>> used in a different way, and if I were to pull OSM data into a flight
>> simulation environment, the lack of distinction would be a huge problem.
> How about modifying the existing tag to aeroway=holding_position:runway &
> aeroway=holding_position:intermediate (or similar arrangement); or
> alternatively aeroway:holding_position=runway / intermediate / anything
> else?
> Second, it's defined as a node rather than a way, but to be useful, the
>> full hold line (holding position marking) needs to annotated as it can't be
>> assumed that the line is either straight or perpendicular to the taxiway
>> centerline.  If the second issue were the only problem, I'd be inclined to
>> just modify the existing tag to include ways (which appears to be used in
>> 20% of all cases anyway).
> & do just that - change the wording to only map it as a way, not a node.
> It would appear, though, that they're currently not rendered (at least on
> the main map - is there an aero map, similar to Open Sea Map?), & I would
> think it fairly unlikely that they ever will be, so the distinction seem a
> bit moot?
> Thanks
> Graeme
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