[Tagging] Telephone poles and lines?

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Mon May 27 00:43:22 UTC 2019


I don't know. There are a few other things to map of more use than the 
local poles, sorry.
But i wanted to point out that poles are frequently used for more than a 
single use.
I'd go with man_made=utility_pole...


On 27/05/19 09:18, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> Are these pole currently mapped with power=pole?
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 7:50 AM Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com 
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Around me, the 'poles' carry;
>
>     power,
>
>     cable internet,
>
>     cable TV (some times the cable carries both TV and internet
>     combined) and
>
>     telephone.
>
>     The don't usually have poles for each service.
>
>     The provision of a national internet service that provides a
>     combined telephone service means that the telephone cable will be
>     no more.
>     There is also a reduction of 'landline' telephone as many have
>     dropped that service as they now all have cell phones.
>
>
>
>     On 26/05/19 21:32, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
>     > I recently checked the wiki and taginfo, and was surprised that
>     there
>     > does not seem to be a preferred way to tag telephone poles, in
>     > contrast to power poles and lampposts.
>     >
>     > Options in use are:
>     > 1) man_made=utility_pole - used 4 930, has a short wiki description:
>     > "A single pole supporting elevation of any of various and
>     unspecified
>     > public utilities, such as power transmission, lighting or telephony"
>     > - so this can also include power poles or poles used for multiple
>     > types of utilities or lamp posts which also support wires.
>     >
>     > 2) communication=pole - used 3316 times, no wiki page
>     > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/communication=pole
>     >
>     > 3) man_made=pole - used 2251 times, no wiki page
>     >
>     > 4) telephone=pole - used 1108 times, no wiki page
>     > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/?key=telephone&value=pole
>     >
>     > User "Chippy" made a wiki page that documents the various tags
>     in use
>     > for telecom lines, poles and cabinets, back in 2015, but none of the
>     > various tags seem to be approved or clearly de facto in use by
>     > mappers:
>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Telecoms#Telephone_Poles
>     >
>     > There is also not much tagging of telephone cables (or wires?), but
>     > there is a documented tag, communication=line - with a wiki page but
>     > no proposal, used 2550 times. This says "Only the main connections,
>     > mostly sea cables, should be mapped."
>     > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:communication%3Dline
>     >
>     > Perhaps there is a need for a proposal to map minor communication
>     > cables, eg. communication=minor_line?
>     >
>     > Is there a need to map smaller telephone or utility poles?
>     >
>     > I don't have any personal interest in mapping this right now (I'm
>     > still working on rivers, villages and highways in my area!) but it
>     > seems similar to "power=minor_line" and "power=pole" in
>     significance,
>     > and I suppose it's better to develop a good tagging system now.
>     >
>     > While using the key "man_made" would be easiest, perhaps the
>     > communication key is a good idea, parallel to "power"?
>     >
>

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