[Tagging] shop=ice_cream vs amenity=ice_cream and OSM Wiki vs tagging

Paul Allen pla16021 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 10 20:56:22 UTC 2019

On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 at 19:42, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at tutanota.com>

I agree here that there is difference between ice cream kiosk and ice cream
> parlour.

We agree on that, then.  Even though it's possible that in US usage an ice
parlour may also include a kiosk (Wikipedia says it does, but Wikipedia can
be wrong).
British English usage of "parlour" implies a room where people sit.

I would not be claiming that shop=ice_cream_kiosk and
> amenity=ice_cream_parlour
> have no clear differences,

Again we agree.  These are functionally different.  On a hot, rainy day I
might contemplate
visiting an ice cream parlour but not an ice cream kiosk.

but we have shop=ice_cream and amenity=ice_cream

I don't expect to be able to go into a supermarket, buy a pack of pork pies
and eat them
inside the store.  Nor would I expect that to be true of shop=ice_cream,
with or without
building=kiosk.  I don't see any need to invent shop=ice_cream_kiosk when
we already
have shop=ice_cream.

I also see a clear parallel between amenity=bar and amenity=ice_cream: go
in, sit down
and consume (there may be an option to purchase to take out).

Shops sell things that you normally take outside of the shop to make use
of.  Amenities are
places you go to do things, which may involve purchasing and using a
product.  I don't
think shop=ice_cream and amenity=ice_cream are intrinsically wrong or

So we have shop=ice_cream and amenity=ice_cream that may not always have
been used
consistently and are currently documented in a way that encourages
inconsistent usage.
Do we fix the documentation, or invent new tags, or have a single tag that
could mean either
type of faciiity?  I'd go with fixing the documentation.

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