[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Small electric vehicles

Volker Schmidt voschix at gmail.com
Sun Nov 10 21:09:26 UTC 2019

Looked at the proposal.

It's a spiny set of issues.

I would discourage electrical_bicycle as this is form the start ambiguous
in many jurisdictions: both pedelecs and S-pedelecs are electric bicycles
and in many jurisdictions these two are treated very differently.

In most EEU counties I believe pedelecs are treated like bicycles and
S-pedelecs as mofas or light motorcycles. So for these two vehicles we do
not need new access tags. They are covered by existing tags.

"scooter" is problematic as it has many different types of uses.

   - The first vehicle type that comes in mind as "scooters" are Vespa
   scooters that come with different motorizations and therefore can fall in
   different categories  from mofa to motorcycle.
   - Then here motor-less "kick-scooters"
   - And then there are "electrical scooters", for which I believe many
   countries have not yet developed rules.

Hence the keys "scooter" and "electric_scooter" are out for me.

The above argumentation is about the legal access use.
However it could be argued that for tag classifiers the story is different:
e.g. "service:electric_bicycle=" seems to be a perfect description for
places that service electrical-bicycle-like vehicles, i.e. pedelecs and S
pedelecs and electrical scooters.

On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 at 18:06, Jan Michel <jan at mueschelsoft.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> up to now we don't have documented tags for small electric vehicles like
> bicycles and scooters. On the other hand, special access rules and
> amenities become more and more common.
> These new keys are not only necessary for access tags, but also intended
> for use with any other kind of amenity like parking, shops, service,
> charging...
> I wrote a proposal [1] to define common keywords for these vehicles.
> Please let me know your opinion and further suggestions!
> Jan
> [1]
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ElectricBicyclesAndScooters
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