[Tagging] shop=ice_cream vs amenity=ice_cream and OSM Wiki vs tagging

Paul Allen pla16021 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 11 00:08:55 UTC 2019

On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 at 23:51, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>

> > On 10. Nov 2019, at 21:57, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I also see a clear parallel between amenity=bar and amenity=ice_cream:
> go in, sit down
> > and consume (there may be an option to purchase to take out).
> I would not see sitting as a requirement for any of these two. It is for a
> cafe, but for a bar?

In the UK we have pubs/bars.  They are places where you sit, buy drinks,
and consume them.
We also have off-licences, where you buy alcoholic drinks and take them off
the premises
to consume them.  I see parallels to ice cream sales.  A place with tables
and seats serving
only (or mainly) ice cream is amenity=ice_cream in the same way a pub is
A place selling only (or mainly) ice cream to be consumed off the premises
shop=ice_cream in the same way that an off-licence is shop=alcohol.  Pubs
are usually
licenced for off sales (take out) too and many ice cream parlours will do
takeaways of
some sort: we have a key for that.

Yes, the analogy is not exact.  You can't legally drink in an off-licence
because it is licensed
only for consumption off the premises, and these days you can't drink in
many public places,
but the parallels are still there.  Most shops will eject you if you try to
consume edibles you
bought there on the premises.  Sit-down versus take-away.  Shops sell
goods, not services.
Amenities offer a service which may include goods with the service.

I don't think amenity=cafe + cuisine=ice_cream is a good fit unless there
are other
cuisines, so that you can have a light meal, in which case it's a cafe not
an ice cream
parlour.  However well it might fit OSM syntax and semantics, mentally I
don't class
an ice cream parlour in the same category as a cafe.  I'd be upset if I
went to
something represented by a cafe icon on a map only to find it was an ice
parlour and didn't serve bacon sandwiches.  YMMV.

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