[Tagging] shop=ice_cream vs amenity=ice_cream and OSM Wiki vs tagging

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Mon Nov 11 02:18:25 UTC 2019

Since this discussion is about documented tags which are currently in
use, rather than discussing a proposal for a new way of tagging, It
would be helpful to focus on the way things are in reality. As Mateusz
Konieczny asked:

[is there a] "consistent difference between shop=ice_cream and
amenity=ice_cream in real tagging by mappers", or not?

It does not appear that these tags are consistently used in a
different way, but rather than some users have typed in "shop="
instead of the more common key "amenity=".

- Joseph Eisenberg

On 11/11/19, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
> sent from a phone
>> On 10. Nov 2019, at 18:33, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at tutanota.com>
>> wrote:
>> Are you claiming that there is some consistent difference between
>> shop=ice_cream and amenity=ice_cream in real tagging by mappers?
> I have no idea about consistent use of these tags, but I am claiming they
> are not identical in meaning. And if you believe they are, I don’t
> understand why you take issue, you could just treat them the same.
> When we speak about ice cream to take home, small ice cream booths may not
> be equipped to satisfy your request. They may not have suitable
> containers/packaging and very likely they will not have liquid air for
> longer transportation. Ice cream is sold in many different ways, by piece
> (cone/cup, sandwich) or by weight, and besides the ice cream there are
> similar products which are in between ice cream and pastry (semi freddo /
> half frozen etc.). Of course a cone is meant for instant consumption, but
> many other forms of ice cream are intended to be eaten as dessert of a meal
> or as a cake. You typically can’t buy a piece of cake (in an Italian
> pasticceria or gelateria), and nobody (almost) would eat a whole cake or
> semifreddo, it would be both, too expensive, and too much sugar and fat.
> Cheers Martin
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