[Tagging] Barrier=berm

Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist at gmail.com
Thu Nov 28 08:51:08 UTC 2019

Am Do., 28. Nov. 2019 um 01:23 Uhr schrieb Graeme Fitzpatrick <
graemefitz1 at gmail.com>:

> A berm, in modern usage, does indeed refer to any number of broadly
> similar concepts, in that it is (usually) a simple pile of dirt, either
> bare, or covered with grass.
> So how about changing the definition to:
> " A *Berm <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Berm>* in modern usage, is a
> raised barrier (usually made of compacted earth, either bare or grass
> covered) separating two areas. It can have many applications, including as
> a defensive fortification line, a protective barrier, a border/separation
> barrier or in industrial or sporting settings".
> Is that better?

I believe we should define the tags according to their meaning. If I get
this right, a berm is defined through their shape, is describing a physical
characteristic. Therefor the definition should not be about the
applications / function. For the function we should add additional tags if
deemed useful by the mapper. So there would be a tag to say it is a berm
(man made earthwork of certain shapes), and another one that says there is
a fortification line, or a protection for a shooting range, or whatever.

Jan Michel wrote:

> - We should have a defined way to tag the purpose of the berm - e.g.
> berm = noise_barrier

along the reasoning above, I would expect the key "berm" to describe a type
of berm. I am not an expert for earthworks, but I am pretty sure there will
be subtypes of berms describing maybe physical characteristics or other
constructive details (e.g. how it was built, if there is reinforcement,
Therefore functional characteristics like "this is there for noise
protection" should go into another tag (would have to discuss what makes

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