[Tagging] Cycling relation misuse

[brad]

There are several variations and gpx tracks available on the net for the 
great divide route.   There are also many websites which discuss the 
route and show maps.   It's in the public domain.

On 10/13/19 2:26 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> (disclosure: I am academic member, but express my personal view)
> The Great Divide route is, to my knowledge, not signposted. The source 
> for thr route is most likely either a GPX track from ACA or a map set 
> from ACA,  which has their copyright on it. aca sells the GPX track 
> and the map.
> For these reasons I think the Great Divide should no be in OSM.
>
> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019, 20:39 brad, <bradhaack at fastmail.com 
> <mailto:bradhaack at fastmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I'm in favor of being flexible for cycling routes.   A good
>     example is
>     the great divide mtb route in Canada & US.   It is probably not
>     signed
>     very well, if at all.   It was created by a non-profit & I don't
>     think
>     it is an official government route.   It is used by quite a few
>     people,
>     both on bikes and motorbikes.   It is in OSM and should remain so.
>
>
>     On 10/12/19 3:35 AM, Warin wrote:
>     > On 12/10/19 20:13, John Willis via Tagging wrote:
>     >> On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:10 PM, Richard Fairhurst
>     <richard at systemeD.net>
>     >> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> A new route_type= tag on the relation would be a
>     >> good way to go.
>     >>
>     >> Route=
>     >> cycle_touring
>     >> road_touring
>     >> cyclist
>     >> road_cyclist
>     >> road_cycling
>     >>
>     >>   ?
>     >>
>     >> I think the word “race” should be left out, unless it is for
>     mapping
>     >> actual racing routes.
>     >>
>     >
>     > Cycling can be left off - already in the network tag.
>     >
>     > Not 'type' - says nothing.
>     >
>     > 'road' would be ? Narrow tyres?
>     >
>     > mtbs we already have .. but
>     >
>     > commuter - local commuter routes to/from shops, transport hubs
>     >
>     > touring - longer distance routes
>     >
>     > fitness/exorcise - for the locals
>     >
>     > scenic/cafe - for local meetings?
>     >
>     >
>     > Some of the routes around me are well sign posted .. others are
>     not so
>     > well done.
>     > Some local council issue maps .. some of these routes are usefull
>     > others are dreaming.
>     >
>     > In some parts of the world there are no marked 'cycling routes' yet
>     > cyclists travel from one point to another using roads/tracks and
>     paths
>     > that most motor vehicle don't.. it would be nice if these could be
>     > mapped in OSM as there is usually no other source.
>     >
>     > I don't think a requirement that bicycle routes must have
>     signage fits
>     > the entire world.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
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