[Tagging] Adding leisure=sports_hall to leisure=sports_centre page

[Joseph Eisenberg]

Re: "A sports hall, to me, is a building in an environment that is not
wholly about sports,so a building in school grounds or in a business
complex."

That's a useful definition.

Can anyone confirm if this is how it's being used? I believe most of
the original discussion was about features in Germany (Sporthallen?) -
I think these are the same as a school Gymnasium in the USA, but I'm
not sure.

I'm just concerned that with the current lack of definition on the
wiki page, people will start using it for features that are normally
tagged as sports centres in a single building, like a dedicated futsal
centre in Brazil or an indoor tennis centre in Indonesia, where words
like "sports hall" and "sports centre" may have no clear translation
into the local language.

- Joseph Eisenberg

On 9/6/19, Chris Hill <osm at raggedred.net> wrote:
> On 05/09/2019 23:29, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 03:08, Chris Hill <osm at raggedred.net
>> <mailto:osm at raggedred.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     It's a sports hall I think because it is marked out for various
>>     indoor sports,e.g. badminton, volley ball,
>>     5-a-side football etc, with curtains or nets to separate courts when
>>     needed.
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Chris, that's what I was remembering from schools in
>> Australia, but they weren't called a sports hall - usually Assembly
>> Hall, as that's where the School assembles to be addressed by the
>> principal.
>>
>> Wouldn't that description still match the definition that Joseph
>> quoted above though - "sports_centre: "a distinct facility where
>> sports take place within an enclosed area" - which then specifically
>> mentions "it can be a building"."?
>>
>>
> To me a sports centre is a place that's dedicated to sport in its own
> space or grounds. It may have outdoor pitches,courts etc as well as
> indoor provisions. I think it could have a gym, i.e. a space with gym
> equipment too.
>
> A sports hall, to me, is a building in an environment that is not wholly
> about sports,so a building in school grounds or in a business complex.
> It has more than just a gym room.
>
> This is just my interpretation and I don't think agonising over precise
> meanings is that useful. I am, however strongly against homogenising the
> database. If someone describes a place as a sports hall I am strongly
> against someone overwriting that as a sports centre when they have no
> local knowledge, but just want to impose a structure to the data that
> doesn't actually exist. We are describing the real world which is messy,
> has contradictions and inconsistencies and which we will never ever get
> right with homogenous lists and restrictions. I say there as sports
> halls and sports centres and there is easily room for both.
>
> --
> cheers
> Chris Hill (chillly)
>
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