[Tagging] Tourist bus stop

Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist at gmail.com
Wed Sep 18 10:24:11 UTC 2019

Am Mi., 18. Sept. 2019 um 11:28 Uhr schrieb Volker Schmidt <
voschix at gmail.com>:

> Unfortunately in OSM the term "bus"
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Buses>is used for public-transport
> buses only:


> " *Buses*, *coaches* and *trolley buses* are forms of public transport
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport> that operate
> mainly on the road network. The system consists of bus routes calling at
> bus stops and bus stations and have a number of related features."
> (also to note that in OSM "coaches" are included in the category PT-bus)

not only in OSM, also legally they are mostly the same (differences are
derived from the fact that coaches typically do not have places to stand,
while inner urban buses usually provide many standing places). Still, not
all coaches are in the "bus" category of OSM, on the contrary, only few,
which are those used for public transport (longer distances).

> And (answering to another question somewhere in this discussion) there are
> cases where we need in OSM an access tag for these generic buses, for
> example to map the access restriction announced by this road sign
> <https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildtafel_der_Verkehrszeichen_in_der_Bundesrepublik_Deutschland_seit_2017#/media/Datei:Zeichen_257-54_-_Verbot_f%C3%BCr_Kraftomnibusse,_StVO_2017.svg>
> .

thank you for repeating it, I do not know how it came it was ignored at
least 2 times here in the previous discussion.

> Given the orginal "sin" of wrongly limiting the term "bus" to
> public-transport buses in OSM (which I believe cannot be undone), we need
> to sort this out by creating other terms.
> I have no proposal for this, but the original proposal of defining
> positions where non-PT buses load/unload passengers is basically a good one.
> The real problem is to properly define different classes of
> mulit-seated-motor-vehicles-with-more-than-8-seats, and then revisit the
> existing tags accordingly.

+1, right now, there is a key for this: "tourist_bus", the definition is
suitable, but its name might be misleading.

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