[Tagging] "not:brand" to mark a shop that isn't part of a chain?

Jmapb jmapb at gmx.com
Thu Sep 19 14:52:01 UTC 2019


On 9/14/2019 10:53 AM, Tim Magee wrote:
> I would absolutely agree with this use case. Especially for cases such as the
> regularly mentioned Burger King. If somebody from out of town is either
> traveling through or armchair mapping they could be confused. If they are
> using the ID editor, it suggests that you "upgrade the tags" which could lead
> to a "Burger King" that is not part of the international Burger King tag
> having the same brand:wikidata tag.

Personally I have a problem with the asymmetry of work that this
requires from mappers who need to protect their work from iD versus
mappers who blindly "upgrade" using iD.

The first mapper has to 1) be familiar with all possible brands (Burger
King is a brand most mappers know, but take a look at all the brands in
this list:
https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/blob/master/brands/amenity/fast_food.json
...and that's just the fast food!) 2) recognize when a feature might
have a brand conflict 3) look up the brand in question and 4) correctly
tag the "not:" prefix for brand in question. The second mapper simply
has to hit the "upgrade" button when prompted.

I certainly have no problem with the idea that iD and other editors
would respect the "not:brand" tag when applying brand info to a feature.
But I'm not buying the idea that these "not:" tags are the solution to
the increasing problem of brand tags being incorrectly applied by iD
(sometimes along with incorrect corrections to name, cuisine, etc.)

The simple truth is that automatically adding these brand tags is a
mechanical bot edit, and the fact that the bot in question is triggered
by a user clicking an ambiguous "upgrade" button doesn't change that.
These edits should be subject to peer review here on the tagging list,
and the iD branding bot should behave according to the automated edits
code of conduct. Yes, this is slower, but it's the right way. Putting
the onus on the original correct mapper to prevent iD's incorrect tags
seems backward.

Jason





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