[Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

[Warin]

On 19/09/19 18:49, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> we may have to byte the bullet and allow semicolon-separated values 
> for landuse. Specific word combinations are not a good solution

OSM uses landuse=residential as a broad brush that includes recreation 
and commercial uses. It includes various densities of population.

Why not landuse=agriculture? As a broad brush it could do well. Could 
includes all types of agriculture practice.

If the output of the area is required then the key produce could be used ..

> So far I know of
> meadow + fruit trees
> bovine pasture + aok trees
> grain + olive trees
> grain + Almond
> pigs + trees
>
> I am sure there are many more.
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> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 09:43, Martin Koppenhoefer 
> <dieterdreist at gmail.com <mailto:dieterdreist at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>     Am Do., 19. Sept. 2019 um 09:18 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen
>     <pla16021 at gmail.com <mailto:pla16021 at gmail.com>>:
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>         On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 00:33, Martin Koppenhoefer
>         <dieterdreist at gmail.com <mailto:dieterdreist at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>             I agree the term silvopasture is not a synonym for meadow
>             orchards. A meadow orchard is specifically low
>             density/sparse trees, while silvopasture indicates a
>             forest/woodland, i.e. denser tree cover.
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>         Really?  I don't see anything in the Wikipedia article that
>         specifies the tree cover is dense.
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>     I didn't write it was "dense", I wrote it was "denser", compared
>     to a meadow orchard.
>
>         In
>         fact, it says: "Integrating pasture into existing woodland
>         presents challenges as well: the woodland
>         likely needs to be thinned to increase light infiltration"  It
>         also has pictures of several different
>         silvopastures, none of which appear to have dense tree cover
>         throughout.
>
>
>
>     it is using the term "woodland". For meadow orchards, I would use
>     the term "meadow" with trees on it. The term "silvo" also is about
>     a "forest"/woods. Can you see the difference?
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>             Also the meadow in meadow orchard can be used for either
>             pasture or cutting the grass, while silvopasture implies
>             pasture.
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>         The trees scattered throughout would make it more economic to
>         put animals out to pasture on
>         it than to mow it.  But maybe where you are people do things
>         the least efficient way.  Even if
>         that is the case, I doubt that would remain viable for much
>         longer.
>
>         BTW, we're probably fooling ourselves in many cases where we
>         say a field is pasture or
>         meadow: it may change from year to year.
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>     places in southern Germany used for pasture are often in
>     environments where (mechanically) cutting the grass is not
>     feasible, due to steep terrain, or where mowing does not make a
>     lot of sense because the soil is quite magre.
>     My point was that "silvopasture" has different connotations, it is
>     about (some kind of) forest with animals grazing below, while
>     meadow orchards is about meadows with sparse (fruit) trees on them
>     (or sparse orchards on a meadow, if you like to put it the other
>     way round). Silvopasture requires pasture, meadow orchards don't.
>
>     Cheers,
>     Martin
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