[Tagging] Was there every a proposal for the disused:key=* / abandoned:key=* lifecycle prefixes?

[Warin]

On 27/09/19 02:15, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 16:49, Richard Fairhurst <richard at systemed.net 
> <mailto:richard at systemed.net>> wrote:
>
>     Paul Allen wrote:
>     > BTW, that's on national cycle route 82, so whether or not it
>     really is
>     > a pub would be of interest to some mappers.
>
>     Oh, has that closed?
>
>
> Two or three years ago.  The Eagle nearby it closed as well, but has 
> since re-opened
> under a new name.
>
>     That's a shame. (I stayed in St Dogmaels a few years
>     ago, thought the Castle Inn looked wonderfully old-fashioned, and was
>     planning to go but was diverted by some other excellent pubs
>     nearby. Not
>     least the one in St Dogmaels itself which served Gwynt y Ddraig Black
>     Dragon. I'd hoped to return one day... ah well.)
>
>
> Ummm, which pub in St Dogs?  The Teifi Netpool Inn is more of a guest 
> house with a bar
> than a pub with guest rooms these days.  The White Hart closed but 
> there's currently an
> attempt by locals to raise the money to take it over.
>
>     > Mapping it as amenity=pub + disused=yes would (if carto
>     > is consistent with other times I've tried disused=yes) render it
>     as a pub
>     > where disused:amenity=pub does not render it as a pub.
>
>     Sure, but OSM isn't just about rendering, let alone just osm-carto
>     rendering.
>
>
> Yes, it's also the data.  To some it's ONLY the data. But for many of 
> us it's both: getting
> a useful map is why we do it and we need accurate data to get a useful 
> map.  If the carto does
> not meet reasonable expectations then people will either stop mapping
> or will tag for the renderer, either of which will reduce the accuracy 
> of the data.

If it looks like a church then OSM uses building=church.

So why not use building=pub???

Ok the renders may not presently use the information .. but it does tag 
the truth?

So .. once the tagging is done .. how would you render a building that 
is a church/pub but no longer functions as a church/pub? That is the 
problem.


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