[Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

[Jonathon Rossi]

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 1:30 AM Volker Schmidt <voschix at gmail.com> wrote:

> We do  not need a new highway tag value "singletrack".
>
Was only making a suggestion to kick the discussion around to what we are
actually mapping, because I dislike leisure=track and highway=cycleway.

I independently read the Wikipedia article,
>
You read more than me, I just know singletrack from walking, running,
riding and building them.

and had come to the conclusion that a singletrack is clearly
> highway=path; surface=unpaved; width=*; mtb:scale=*; mtb:scale:uphill=*;
> mtb:scale:downhill=* and any other tag form the wiki page Mountain biking
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mountain_biking>
>
Yep agreed, that is what I've been using for years as documented on the
wiki. Singletrack is so varied that the highway=path definition of "A
non-specific path" does actually do a good job at describing it. Every now
and then I find some highway=path that should be highway=track but it
usually was added nearly a decade ago so people are doing better today.

It does not need foot=yes and bicycle=yes, as this is implicit.
> A highway=path is, according the wiki, a "singletrack" ("If a path is wide
> enough for 4-wheel-vehicles (wider than 2 m), and it is not legally
> signposted or otherwise only allowed for pedestrians, cyclists or
> horseriders, it is often better tagged as a highway
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=track
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrack> or highway
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=service
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dservice>")
> It is not different from any mountain trail here. There is no preference
> for MTBs according Wikipedia. It is shared with hikers.
>
Agreed, I made no indication it was different in Australia, just that no
one calls them cycleways (or cycle paths) here, also fairly rare to have
MTB-only trails on public land here too.

And the doubletrack shown on the same page is identical with any
> run-of-the-mill forest road here in Europe, which we usually tag as
> highway=track. And unfortunately I would call this specific one a
> single-track forest road. :-(
>
Yep, highway=track for that one. Oh, but there are two tracks from left and
right tyres :|

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Jono
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