[Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

David Marchal penegal.fr at protonmail.com
Sat Aug 1 13:48:48 UTC 2020

Hm, it seems a smart way to manage such cases; I could add the restrictions on the relation, like hazmat:water=no or maxweight=12. I assume that, in such cases, I must create a destination_sign relation for unrestricted destinations, and one for each destination restriction (if there are several restrictions, one relation for each restriction).

Is it widestream to have several destinations in one single relation, or is it necessary to add a relation per destination? Having one relation per destination would be a pain in the ass.

What about application support? Are destination_sign relations widely supported, or are they mostly ignored by software like Osmand?

I would like to add this possibility on the Wiki; do you think it would be necessary to fill a proposal, or could I just add it, as it is a simple, self-explaining, combination of preexisting tags?

Awaiting your answers,

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Le samedi 1 août 2020 11:12, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com> a écrit :

> While you're talking about the destination tag, I think when using a destination_sign relation it's best to apply the mode as eg. bicycle=designated, eg https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/11345354#map=18/-33.82573/151.21308 for https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/VIq-OPTiw0BVI7gqdLR-iA
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 at 23:55, David Marchal via Tagging <tagging at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>> Hello, there.
>> I'm wondering, there are destination signs which only apply to some kind of vehicles: for HGV, for bicycles, for pedestrians, for vehicles below 12t… How would I tag such destinations? The simple way would be to use, respectively, destination:hgv=*, destination:bicycle=*, destination:foot=*, destination:conditional="* @ weight<12". Am I right to assume these?
>> If so, some examples:
>> - in this example (https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/mo0AKf9masIEfpJtySH8fw), the road ahead would be tagged (regardless of direction), destination="Darney;Plombières;Bains-les-B.;Gare S.N.C.F.;Gare" and destination:hgv="Vesoul;Mulhouse;Darney;Plombières;Bains-les-B.;Gare S.N.C.F.;Gare"
>> - in this example (https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/Oz3Om7pGbk7LA5wSmYLRew), the link would be tagged destination:fee="Milan;Turin;Aoste;Courmayeur;Tunnel du Mᵗ Blanc"
>> - in this example (https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/pNJJG6ST4njXchZDQZ3XPw), the road exiting the turnaround would be tagged destination="Épinal;Bruyères;Remiremont;Quartiers sud;Zones industrielles" and destination:conditional="(Saint-Dié;Raon-l’Étape;Épinal;Bruyères;Remiremont;Quartiers sud;Zones industrielles) @ weight>3.5 AND hgv"
>> - in this example (https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/71zRlujmD69aPg35BFO1r6), the road exiting the turnaround would be tagged destination="La Voivre", destination:bicycle="La Voivre;Sᵗ Dié" and destination:ref="C 3"
>> Is that correct? Can I edit the Wiki destination tag page to give these informations, or maybe should I submit a RFC to formalize this?
>> Awaiting your answers,
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