[Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

muralito at montevideo.com.uy muralito at montevideo.com.uy
Tue Aug 4 13:17:20 UTC 2020

----- Mensaje original -----
> De: "Christoph Hormann" <osm at imagico.de>
> Para: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" <tagging at openstreetmap.org>
> Enviados: Martes, 4 de Agosto 2020 9:14:32
> Asunto: Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

> Almost all of the arguments you bring up here are cultural or political
> in nature.  Discussing those will lead us nowhere.  Hence my suggestion
> to you in the other mail to consider this exclusively from the physical
> geographic perspective.
> The only point i could identify in your writing that is not
> cultural/political in nature is the claim that the Rio de la Plata was
> first mapped 6 years ago when the riverbank polygon was created.  That
> is not true.  The Rio de la Plata was mapped long before - first
> significant parts started in 2011 already, by end 2012 the mapping was
> complete:
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/WK9
> and it stayed tagged as natural=coastline until you changed that in:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20290034
> After that there were countless attempts to move up the coastline
> closure again - all of which however were soon reverted.
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/WKi
> --
> Christoph Hormann
> http://www.imagico.de/
> _______________________________________________
> Tagging mailing list
> Tagging at openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

I linked several scientific studies that clearly shows and are verifiable geographic evidence that this is not an oceanic coast, its a riverbank and should not be tagged as coastline. Not cultural, not politics. I just linked the treaties to show that there are no political motivations in my thinking, because the political issues were already solved many years ago. Anyway, most limits, including natural ones are political facts, agreement between nations, also including defacto limits because war is also politics.
It's only physical geographic perspective, its a riverbank, not an ocean, its inner fresh water.

You are mixing things. The coastline is not the river. The waterway=river for Rio de la Plata was not mapped until i mapped it in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/19137685 in November 2013. That is 6 years, and will be 7 years in 3 months. Modify your query to search for waterway=river and you will see.
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/WKi . And no mapping is ever complete, at less here where e.g. new sediment islands keeps appearing, old islands increase it size, and nearby islands joins toghether.

I changed the tagging because it was and it is wrong to tag this as coastline, it's a riverbank, as i have been saying for years. The coastline should be in the line because to the west there are inner waters and to the east the ocean.



Con el nuevo beneficio fiscal, tu facturación electrónica puede ser sin costo.

Informate si aplicás aquí.



More information about the Tagging mailing list