[Tagging] PTv2 public_transport=stop_position for stop positions that vary based on train length

[Mateusz Konieczny]

Aug 11, 2020, 19:52 by claysmalley at gmail.com:

> What exactly is your point here? If nobody is responding to your complaints, perhaps they aren't worth responding to.
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Or posted as an unreadable blue text.

>  Repeating the same complaints to the same group of people won't change that.
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> Are you worried that incorrectly-mapped stop positions endanger people's safety?
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> We've pointed out concrete steps you can take to improve these initially-mapped stop positions. If mapping stop positions accurately is important to you, why not take responsibility for improving them?
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> -Clay
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> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 8:48 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging <> tagging at openstreetmap.org> > wrote:
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>> this is missing my original talk.
>> IN the chicago area we have 3 railway company’s operating the system, and one had signs left up from the old days
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>> which in watching the train come into that stations platform >> did not stop at the sign based on the number of cars + the
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>> diesel engines or engines. which could be 5, 6, 7, or 8 cars, we stop at 8 here. 1 or 2 engines.
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>> i should say more here, 1.who is driving the train, 2.what co. does he work for, 3.how long is the train, 
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>> 4.how long is the platform, 5 what is the time of day, am rush, pm rush, midday, >> evening>> . >> 6.>>  >> out of all the cars what are
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>> being used, open, 7. weekend, or week day, 8.raining or snowing, 9.end of the line, >> 10.is <http://10.is>>>  the platform so short
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>> that only 2 cars will fit. >> 11.is <http://11.is>>>  the train pushing or pulling. (it does not work here you can not tag all 400 platforms the same.) 
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>>> Monday, August 10, 2020 10:51 PM -05:00 from Warin <>>> 61sundowner at gmail.com <http:///compose?To=61sundowner@gmail.com>>>> >:
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>>> On 11/8/20 1:11 pm, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote:
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>>>> the train or trains do not stop where he says they do,
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>>> Do they stop at the platform? Yes.
>>> So stop positions maybe mapped. 
>>>> and i am talking about 400 +,
>>>> unverified platforms. which is 200 + stations,
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>>> Unverified? Verified by the existing signs? This maybe 'out of date' but still verifiable. 
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>>> How 'inaccurate' are the present stop positions? 
>>> How precise is the mapped position required?
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>>> Were there stop positions there before?
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>>> Is it not better to have some indication rather than nothing?
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>>> "They will stay there for ever".... unless someone improves them.
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>>>>> Monday, August 10, 2020 9:33 PM -05:00 from Warin <>>>>> 61sundowner at gmail.com <>>>>>> >:
>>>>>  >>>>> On 11/8/20 9:25 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote:
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>>>>>> one of the points that i talked about, that no one has answered yet is what about someone not local
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>>>>>> who just puts 400 + unverified stops on platforms and there all wrong.
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>>>>> If you find something wrong - correct it.
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>>>>> If the things mapped are deceitful, malicious etc then report it to the DWG to prevent more of the same.  
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>>>>> If the things mapped are better than what was there before then I would call them improvements and thus beneficial, no point in being upset by it.
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>>>>> Being local is not a requirement to map, get over it. Local knowledge is beneficial as it aids mapping things that have local characteristics - like where trains stop
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