[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

wolle68 at posteo.de wolle68 at posteo.de
Wed Aug 19 16:54:37 UTC 2020


I'm completely open to suggestions in this regard. I took the key I've 
already seen used by some, but if someone comes up with a better idea, 
great.

Am 19.08.2020 18:37 schrieb Volker Schmidt:
> With respect to the proposed key, I would invite you to consider an
> alternative way of tagging this function.
> In various countries and in various religions the approaches on how to
> say good-bye to the dead are different.
> I am thinking of the "camera ardente" in Italy or the "Aufbahrung" in
> Germany, these are ways of providing this in different contexts. What
> about a tag that can be added to any kind of place, a funeral
> director's or a chapel or the town hall, indicating that this kind of
> farewell can be arranged.
> I do not have the correct wording in GB English right now ("laying
> out"?), but the concept would be not to create a tag that implies a
> dedicated building, but to create a tag for the function that can be
> added to a building or a "shop".
> <this would obviously include the possibility of tagging a dedicated
> funeral hall.
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> On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 17:59, Joseph Eisenberg
> <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> In the US, there are privately owned cemeteries, often with a
>> private funeral home / mortuary building on the site. You can buy a
>> plot and also pay for the funeral services, including the use of a
>> hall for a viewing, reception or funeral service (religious or
>> otherwise).
>> 
>> E.g.:
>> 
> https://www.dignitymemorial.com/funeral-homes/glendale-az/west-resthaven-funeral-home/4707
>> [2] - a funeral home and private cemetery.
>> 
>> In many American cities most of the cemeteries, crematoriums and
>> mausoleums are privately owned and operated.
>> 
>> So my question is if we should add this new tag to the reception /
>> service halls which are found at at private funeral homes /
>> mortuaries as well? Often these are in the same building as the
>> crematorium and the morgue (where bodies are prepared and stored
>> prior to burial or cremation), and the offices and reception for the
>> funeral home are also there.
>> 
>> Or are we only thinking to use this new tag for stand-alone halls?
>> 
>> It would also be good to clarify how these are different than a
>> place_of_worship. For example, consider the many non-sectarian
>> chapels and prayer rooms found in airports, shopping centres,
>> hospitals, and similar public facilities. Aren't those tagged as
>> amenity=place_of_worship - or is that also a mistake?
>> 
>> - Joseph Eisenberg
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 7:13 AM <wolle68 at posteo.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> Not important at all. I just think that if it is ancillary to the
>>> business of selling coffins, transporting corpses, preparing them
>>> for
>>> burial, doing paperwork in relation to that etc. (what the French
>>> call a
>>> "funérarium"), then it doesn't deserve a tag distinct from the
>>> funeral
>>> directors tag (but if a majority think otherwise, I don't have
>>> strong
>>> feelings about it either).
>>> 
>>> Am 19.08.2020 15:47 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
>>>> sent from a phone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 19. Aug 2020, at 15:33, wolle68 at posteo.de wrote:
>>>>> I could imagine rare cases of a privately run cemetery not
>>> linked to
>>>>> any religion or belief/life stance and where there is such a
>>> building.
>>>>> But typically, they would be public.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> let me rephrase my question: how important is it that the
>>> facility is
>>>> “public”?
>>>> IMHO this feature should have a functional definition only,
>>> everything
>>>> else depends on the context and is not really relevant.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers Martin
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