[Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

Francesco Ansanelli francians at gmail.com
Sun Aug 30 09:23:52 UTC 2020


Dear Polyglot,

it sounds good to me. But what roles do you suggest for such superroute?
Many thanks
Francesco

Il giorno dom 30 ago 2020 alle ore 11:00 Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> How would you feel about mapping it with a superroute relation?
>
> The superroute would then contain 3 route relations.
>
> 1 for the first part by bicycle
> 1 for the middle part by train
> 1 for the last part by bicycle
>
> If we give the train part a different role in the superroute, we can make
> it such that the continuity line in JOSM is still drawn.
>
> This solution might also work to indicate that certain parts of a bicycle
> route need to be done on foot. Although creating separate route relations
> for such short stretches may feel like overkill.
>
> The other 'interruption' of a bicycle route I can think of, is where a
> ferry needs to be taken. In theory this could also be a funicular. In
> Antwerpen there is a special bus service that takes cyclists through a
> tunnel under river Schelde (for commuters, where a ferry was abolished,
> it's unlikely we'll create a route relation for this, but not
> impossible/unthinkable).
>
> In JOSM PT_Assistant there will soon be a convenience button to extract
> route relations from route or superroute relations, to make a conversion
> from route to superroute+route relations easier to do.
>
> Polyglot
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 9:59 AM Francesco Ansanelli <francians at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> a new example that could benefit of this proposal:
>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10605853
>>
>> Can someone please go ahead and make a proposal?
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Best regards
>> Francesco
>>
>> Il mer 24 giu 2020, 23:25 Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com> ha
>> scritto:
>>
>>> For the record, I think a transfer role is a generic solution  for the
>>> issue raised here, applicable to the cable car transfer and other types of
>>> transfer in routes, but I will not propose a new role value any time soon.
>>>
>>> Anyone who wants to do it has my support, though.
>>>
>>> Vr gr Peter Elderson
>>>
>>>
>>> Op za 20 jun. 2020 om 09:13 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer <
>>> dieterdreist at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sent from a phone
>>>>
>>>> > On 20. Jun 2020, at 01:58, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Normal OSM access is assumed to be access=yes, where some access is
>>>> restricted then in OSM it should be marked *=no.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> for roads access=yes is assumed, it is not necessarily the default for
>>>> all kind of features.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers Martin
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