[Tagging] RFC - Hazards - 2 Week Update & RFC Summary
Graeme Fitzpatrick
graemefitz1 at gmail.com
Wed Dec 9 21:27:02 UTC 2020
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 23:37, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Kevin Kenny argued (I think convincingly) that the hazard is fallen, not
> falling, rocks. There is a very slight risk that a rock will fall on your
> vehicle but the greater risk, by far, is that you will drive into a fallen
> rock.
>
But not always!
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WsC1Ee0QfGg/SdqAsY6oJwI/AAAAAAAAAkg/P71eh3vrZj0/s280/rockslide+4.bmp
Editors could make both fallen and falling searchable, and identify
> the preset as "falling/fallen rocks," so we might as well make the
> value reflect the really big risk rather than the very small one.
>
While I agree with you, our signs do say "Falling"!
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 03:30, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Also, in the UK, the sign for unexploded ordnance is the same as you
> have for minefields. That symbol first appeared in UK Defence Standard
> 05-34, Marking of Service Matériel, and was called (bizarrely) "Unexploded
> explosive ordnance" (if it has exploded it would no longer be explosive,
> and if it's explosive then it must be unexploded). In old money it
> would have been called "unexploded bomb."
>
Our UXO, or "Live bombs" sign, depending on the sign it's on, is
https://cdn-01.media-brady.com/store/stuk/media/catalog/product/cache/3/image/85e4522595efc69f496374d01ef2bf13/1563992197/d/m/dmeu_hz185ad_std.lang.all.jpg
I think that moved away from "bomb" because other things (artillery shells,
grenades, rockets etc) can all blow up & kill you?
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 04:13, Brian M. Sperlongano <zelonewolf at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> - Hidden dip
>>
>> Maybe. There is a barely used tag hazard=dip. Is this a permanent
> feature? I usually see these in relation to road construction. Note that
> speed dips are already covered under the key traffic_calming, so this would
> have to describe a permanent, signed dangerous feature that wasn't put
> there for traffic control reason.
>
Yes, they are permanent features & relatively common out here, with a
"very" complicated warning sign!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Australia_road_sign_W5-9.svg
A few more that I've just thought of:
Tilting truck: This sign warns that trucks may tip over when driving around
the curve of the road or when making a turn.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Australia_W1-8_(L).svg
Emergency vehicles: give you early warning that emergency vehicles may
suddenly drive in or out of their entrance onto the road.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Australia_road_sign_W5-SA70.svg
Grid: to warn that you are approaching a cattle grid - we already have a
tag for grids, do we also need a sign to warn that they're coming up?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Australia#/media/File:Australia_road_sign_W5-16.svg
Thanks
Graeme
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