[Tagging] The saga of landuse=reservoir vs water=reservoir
Mateusz Konieczny
matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Sun Dec 13 18:07:34 UTC 2020
Dec 13, 2020, 18:46 by tomasstraupis at gmail.com:
Please first stop quoting me in way that presents your
statements under my autorship
> 2020-12-13, sk, 19:18 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging rašė:
> Mateusz, can you point out which of my claims is a lie?
>
"iD coders decided to skip standard IT processes of product development
(or were not familiar with the basics of IT)"
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"coders of iD decided to lie to the users that landuse=reservoir is
deprecated which it never was"
It is deprecated by 2011 proposal, seehttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_details#Deprecation
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> I didn't say iD invented duplicate schema, I said that schema was
> lying dead until iD decided to introduce it as the only way to tag
> water, introduction "launched" new water schema adding any
> considerable usage (as it was the only option for iD mappers).
>
OK, this one was based on miscommunication.
> Introducing duplicate and unused schema (especially as the only
> option) is not a good IT decision
>
It was not an unused schema.
> usage/requirements must lead technical decisions. That is IT BASICS.
>
It was not an unused schema and it was proposed, approved and used before iD
started using it and later aggressively promoting it.
> and introduced
>
>> water=reservoir as the only way to tag, all this at the time when
>> water=reservoir usage was close to zero!
>>
>> See https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/water=reservoir#chronology
>>
>> Usage in January 2019 was about 200 000 already.
>>
>> "water=reservoir usage was close to zero" is untrue
>>
>
> Key word "introduced" so it is 2012, not 2019.
> water=reservoir usage in 2012 is close to zero.
>
Then iD followed a fresh approved proposal, so relatively low
usage is not surprising.
Though it is a rare case when I encounter complaint about iD
developers following outcome of a proposal process.
>> It is deprecated by 2011 proposal, see
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_details#Deprecation
>>
>
> The author of this proposal agreed that standard water schema is NOT
> deprecated.
>
It is not changing that this vote deprecated landuse=reservoir.
Maybe it is a bad decision that should be ignored, but
it is not changing that deprecation happened.
> And a few people voting in wiki cannot deprecate a tag.
>
That is one of methods to deprecate tag, even if you dislike it.
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