[Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

Anders Torger anders at torger.se
Mon Dec 14 07:07:44 UTC 2020


Why is the relation problematic (honest question)?

I was starting to think that some sort of naming relation could be the 
answer, ie you put both peaks in a relation with for example type=name; 
natural=mountain; name=Kebnekaise.

In addition one should write clearly that peak serves dual purpose both 
as naming peaks and mountains. Today on the wiki the peak is clearly 
defined as only the summit, but it's often used as naming mountains 
where the peak is nameless.

What we also could have is fuzzy naming areas, which we would need in 
some way or another at some point anyway, so you would have an area 
covering the mountain with name=Kebnekaise. I would have no problem with 
that, but it seems to that it must be in a separate database as it just 
too controversial to be in the main database.

/Anders

On 2020-12-13 21:12, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:

> Dec 13, 2020, 19:58 by anders at torger.se:
> 
>> Do you have a suggestion of how to map Sweden's highest mountain, 
>> Kebnekaise?
>> 
>> The mountain is called Kebnekaise, it has two peaks, one is called 
>> "Sydtoppen" ("the south peak"), the other "Nordtoppen" ("the north 
>> peak").
> 
> I admit that I have no good idea, if I would run into such case and 
> failed to find a better idea
> (hopefully one will come) I would invent a new way to tag that.
> 
> natural=mountain? Main problem is where to put it - node at arbitrary 
> position between peaks?
> Node at location of highest peak? Area? Relation? All of that is sadly 
> problematic.
> 
>> (The mountain_range tag is a great tag, but I note that its status is 
>> just "in use", it's not an approved tag :-O.)
> 
> It is perfectly fine to use tags that never went through tagging 
> proposal, though
> I am not going to endorse this one. Tagging mountain ranges seems to 
> poorly fit OSM
> with multiple different opinions where mountain range starts/ends and 
> inability to
> verify it by survey.
> 
> All tags were in some stage rarely used before becoming heavily used,
> only some cases went through a proposal process.
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