[Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Mon Dec 14 10:39:27 UTC 2020


Relations are quite obnoxious in regular editing and also
during actually using the data.


Dec 14, 2020, 08:07 by anders at torger.se:

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> Why is the relation problematic (honest question)?
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> I was starting to think that some sort of naming relation could be the answer, ie you put both peaks in a relation with for example type=name; natural=mountain; name=Kebnekaise.
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> In addition one should write clearly that peak serves dual purpose both as naming peaks and mountains. Today on the wiki the peak is clearly defined as only the summit, but it's often used as naming mountains where the peak is nameless.
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> What we also could have is fuzzy naming areas, which we would need in some way or another at some point anyway, so you would have an area covering the mountain with name=Kebnekaise. I would have no problem with that, but it seems to that it must be in a separate database as it just too controversial to be in the main database.
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> /Anders
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> On 2020-12-13 21:12, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
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>> Dec 13, 2020, 19:58 by anders at torger.se:
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>>> Do you have a suggestion of how to map Sweden's highest mountain, Kebnekaise?
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>>> The mountain is called Kebnekaise, it has two peaks, one is called "Sydtoppen" ("the south peak"), the other "Nordtoppen" ("the north peak").
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>> I admit that I have no good idea, if I would run into such case and failed to find a better idea
>> (hopefully one will come) I would invent a new way to tag that.
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>> natural=mountain? Main problem is where to put it - node at arbitrary position between peaks?
>> Node at location of highest peak? Area? Relation? All of that is sadly problematic.
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>>> (The mountain_range tag is a great tag, but I note that its status is just "in use", it's not an approved tag :-O.)
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>> It is perfectly fine to use tags that never went through tagging proposal, though
>> I am not going to endorse this one. Tagging mountain ranges seems to poorly fit OSM
>> with multiple different opinions where mountain range starts/ends and inability to
>> verify it by survey.
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>> All tags were in some stage rarely used before becoming heavily used,
>> only some cases went through a proposal process.
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