[Tagging] Fwd: amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

Jake Edmonds jake_edmonds at me.com
Mon Jan 6 10:44:15 UTC 2020

On third thought, breweries isn’t appropriate because not all reverse vending machine is for beer bottles, or even bottles at all. 

If something like brands_accepted existed, that would be fine. I’d rather not create something new. 

Machines may take more than one type of item. Some here take bottles and bottle creates. Some take metal cans. 

Reverse vending machines are not the only vending machine type that’s not technically a vending machine, although you are exchanging one thing for another. 

I propose
vending=reverse_vending (or keep bottle_return as its already in use)
recycling:glass_bottles=yes/no (already is use)
recycling:<other types>=yes/no
Plus another optional tag to dictate which brands the machine takes
Sent from Jake Edmonds' iPhone

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> Regardless of whether the main tag should be changed or not, on second thought, I think the following tags should be used:
> brand= To indicate how the service is branded, for example, a recycling/bottle return company or the name of the super market where the machine is located
> 	https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Reverse_Vending_Machine_-_Fresh_Plus_-_Pod_šiancom_-_Kosice.jpg 
> 		Located inside and branded as Fresh (a supermarket), the receipt can only be exchanged in Fresh.
> 	https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Reverse_vending_machine_for_the_NSW_Container_Deposit_Scheme_at_the_Kooringal_Mall_2.jpg 
> 		Located outside and branded as Return and Earn (a government scheme), retail vouchers, PayPal an e-vouchers are available.
> operator= To indicate who maintains/services the machine, possibly the same as the brand, maybe hard to find out.
> breweries= To indicate the brands of containers that the machine accepts 
>> On 5 Jan 2020, at 21:43, Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>> On 2020-01-05 21:02, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>> sent from a phone
>>>> On 5. Jan 2020, at 16:46, Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>>> The term vending machine is misrepresenting these machines and should not be used.
>>>> They are frequently called "reverse vending" machines - instead of the customer trading money for goods, they trade goods for money.
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_vending_machine
>>> clearly „reverse vending machine" is a completely different term/concept than „vending machine", although it plays with the idea of using the same words and change the meaning by adding „reverse" to it
>> It is also a clearly related concept. I hereby propose:
>>   amenity=reverse_vending_machine
>>    reverse_vending=bottle_return
>> Problem solved.
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