[Tagging] Question about capacity:*=* on parking_space

[Alessandro Sarretta]

Hi Lionel,

On 17/01/20 10:52, Lionel Giard wrote:
> Alesandro,
>
> The thing is that disabled=designated is an access (so regulated by 
> law), and would depend because each country's law vary (not every 
> country enforce restriction for disabled parking or other type of 
> vehicle...). Thus, it may be wrong to tag an access when it doesn't exist.

If the parking_space with specific symbology is regulated by law and 
only accessible by disabled persons (like in Italy), I think the tag 
disabled=designated express exactly that, and should be used.

If a parking space is not limited to disabled persons, what is the 
purpose to add a capacity:disabled=1? Maybe I'm missing your point... 
Could you please share and example where a parking space should have a 
capacity:disabled=1 but is not access-regulated?

Ale

> While a tag that's only an attribute describing what type of parking 
> exist, is unambiguous. It may be parking_space=* or access:*=* , both 
> are "good" for that as they are unambiguous in their meaning. The only 
> advantage of the second is that it is already used for amenity=parking 
> and seems coherent to use for the parking_space in my opinion (even if 
> it is only 1 place). The wiki page already mention all the different 
> type because there are many other than disabled (like parent, women, 
> electric charging,...) : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:capacity
>
> marc,
>
> The capacity:*=* tag should not be used alone (as described for any 
> parking), it is an addition to the capacity=* tag. For example, a 
> place marked as "capacity=1" and "capacity:disabled=1" means that the 
> 1 capacity is disabled. A better example is for an amenity=parking, 
> you have a parking with "capacity=12" and "capacity:disabled=3" it 
> means 3 of the 12 parking space are disabled.
> Theoretically, all parking_space should be capacity=1 (and if 
> necessary capacity:*=*) but the advantage (as mentioned above) is that 
> it would use the same tagging than for amenity=parking. Thus we 
> wouldn't use two different scheme for the same thing.
>
>
> Le ven. 17 janv. 2020 à 09:52, PanierAvide <panieravide at riseup.net 
> <mailto:panieravide at riseup.net>> a écrit :
>
>     Hello Lionel,
>
>     I totally agree with that, I never understood this special
>     treatment of amenity=parking_space, and so I'm using capacity:*=*
>     with that. My use case is for disabled people parking spaces :
>     just look for capacity:disabled=* and you're good to go, whatever
>     it is a parking or parking_space.
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Adrien P.
>
>     Le 17/01/2020 à 09:36, Lionel Giard a écrit :
>>     Hello everyone,
>>
>>     I saw that on the parking_space wiki page it says that we
>>     shouldn't use capacity:*=* on parking_space, and instead use the
>>     access tag. But why is this the case? It seems logical to use
>>     capacity:disabled=* on a parking_space for disabled people or
>>     capacity:charging=* on a parking_space for electric vehicles that
>>     are charging. And there is not always legal access linked to
>>     these "special" parking spaces (e.g. I don't think there are many
>>     places regulating parking on parents' parking spaces in the law).
>>     It seems strange to forbid this, while promoting the tagging of
>>     "capacity=*". ^_^
>>
>>     I therefore propose to change this description to favour this
>>     tagging (when useful) instead of prohibiting it. What do you
>>     think about this?
>>
>>     Kind Regards,
>>     Lionel
>>
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