[Tagging] RFC free_water

European Water Project europeanwaterproject at gmail.com
Wed Jan 22 13:40:33 UTC 2020

Dear Phil,

A group of us have recently started an NGO called European Water Project to
develop a similar scheme to that of Refill all over Europe.   I have
written a Progressive Web Apllication https://europeanwaterproject.org
available in 8 languages for this purpose. We currently are only mapping
drinking fountains, but want to add participating refill cafes and bars.

I had many many discussions with Gus Hoyt from the Refill UK Bristol
headquarters and unfortunately the board of City2Sea is adamant about
following a closed database scheme and requiring all affiliates of their
scheme to sell Chilly water bottles.

We believe the development and the maintenance of a database of
participating cafes and bars is best done using an open data database and
done collaboratively.

I recently presented our project  at the UN in Geneva in front of 850
students from 32 countries and received a positive response.

Best regards,


On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 14:21, Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 22 January 2020, European Water Project wrote:
> > Hi Paul et. al,
> >
> > I would also be very supportive of this straightforward approach which
> > would address many of the concerns regarding an over complicated tagging
> > scheme covering cases that are often mandated by local legislation.
> >
> > One clean solution could be the following or something similar.
> >
> > drinking_water:refill_scheme=<yes/no>
> >
> Thank you.
> Paul's response did clear up my reservations on the idea.
> The webpage makes it clear there is a sticker that is verifiable without
> going in a asking. Not sure if that was mentioned before or if I had simply
> missed it.
> This meets the gold osm standard of Verifable.
> Now I know there is something to look out for I can start looking when I'm
> out.
> Its a shame the website doesn't have location, I do not use Google play,
> but I guess thats why you want to put them into OSM.
> As its a UK scheme, discussion on the talk-gb list would be more focussed
> and you will reach more mappers who are able to survey and contribute.
> Cheers
> Phil  (trigpoint)
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