[Tagging] How to map terrace buildings with names

Niels Elgaard Larsen elgaard at agol.dk
Wed Jul 8 19:16:08 UTC 2020

Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging:
> 8 Jul 2020, 16:35 by elgaard at agol.dk:
>         Matthew Woehlke wrote:
>         Disclaimer: this is all US law. If you live in another country, YMMV.
>     Yes, facts are not copyrightable.
>     In Europe we unfortunately have the Database Directive
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_Directive
>     Which is probably what Google would use.
>     They might not win, but OSM should not spend unnecessary time in courts.
>     Who wants a new SCO vs IBM/(Linux)?
>     https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/710/can-i-use-google-streetview-to-help-create-maps
>     ==
>     The question has been closed for the following reason "The question has turned into a
>     debate, which would be better suited for the legal-talk@ mailing list. OSM's position
>     on sources is to be whiter-than-white, and not to use any third-party sources for
>     which we do not have explicit permission. Please direct any further follow-ups to
>     legal-talk at . Thanks --Richard" by Richard 31 May '12, 17:15
> Exactly, we are not Pirate Bay
> or Internet Archive or Wikidata
> and we are not on exciting adventure
> of what kind of copyright rules we canĀ 
> ignore.

Indeed, we are the ones that can say: we do not need your help. When it comes to
mapping the physical world, we can do it ourselves, bottom up.

> "hmm, it can be justified if we
> interpret law this way" or
> "they are unlikely to sue because"
> are not a good reasons to do something
> in OpenStreetMap.

And I can see the point in that line of thinking. Because who can say that they do
not need The Beatles or The Beach Boys or NYT articles because they can just make
something better themselves?

But wrt mapping, we can all just get in our car or on our bicycle today and make
something that it better than Google Street View. It will be better because if we do
it today it will be more current than Google Street View. For a while at least.

> Why? See case of Internet Archive
> that always was on kind of edge of
> copyright law and recently went
> too far.
> Now they are in a serious legal
> trouble that has potential to end existence
> of Internet Archive with Wayback
> Machine and Open Lending Library
> (where the trouble started).
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