[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Ground)

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 12:16:44 UTC 2020


On 10/7/20 9:30 pm, Peter Elderson wrote:
> Looks like humus is a component of soil. So I think soil covers it, 
> being a top layer consisting of mixed organic and mineral matter.
>
> To me it is hard to imagine an area as permanently natural=bare_soil. 
> Wouldn't there always be some kind of vegetation within a year?


Not always.

Sorry to say but some soils have been so polluted combined with the 
resulting soil erosion vegetation has taken some decades to come back.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queenstown,_Tasmania#Ecology

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> Best, Peter Elderson
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> Op vr 10 jul. 2020 om 12:42 schreef Michael Montani 
> <michael.montani at un.org <mailto:michael.montani at un.org>>:
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>     I agree it could be considered as humus. The distinction between
>     organic soil and humus is ambiguous according to
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humus , but I think it is general
>     enough to target mostly organic soil.
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>     Shall we consider to add this specification on the tagging? Or
>     would humus be considered as bare soil anyway?
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>     Thanks
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>     *Da:* Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com
>     <mailto:pelderson at gmail.com>>
>     *Inviato:* venerdì 10 luglio 2020 12:02
>     *A:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
>     <tagging at openstreetmap.org <mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>>
>     *Oggetto:* Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Ground)
>     Organic without any mineral, would you still call that soil?
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>     Vr gr Peter Elderson
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>     Op vr 10 jul. 2020 om 11:55 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer
>     <dieterdreist at gmail.com <mailto:dieterdreist at gmail.com>>:
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>         sent from a phone
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>         > On 10. Jul 2020, at 11:39, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
>         <tagging at openstreetmap.org <mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>>
>         wrote:
>         >
>         > Why it would be natural=bare_ground rather than
>         natural=bare_soil?
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>
>         +1,
>         I also disagree that “soil can be organic or mineral”. It has
>         typically both, organic and mineral components, but organic
>         components are a hard requirement. Otherwise it would be sand,
>         or rock, or silt or clay or loam etc. (depending on grain size/s).
>
>         Cheers Martin
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